Australia vs India 10th CUB ODI
Australia have found a winning strategy in this summer's Tri-Series - bat badly then bowl like demons. It's a more successful strategy than batting like demons then bowling badly. Meanwhile, India are looking to book a finals berth if they win today. They'll be hoping Australia don't figure out how to bat and bowl well in the same game.
| Posted by JC on Sun 24 Feb |  118 comments |
its nice
Posted by dhaval on 2008-02-24 13:12:43
Posted by dhaval on 2008-02-24 13:12:43
Aussies are batting first. Pitch is looking quite good. Lets see what happens?
Posted by Jatinder on 2008-02-24 14:21:48
Posted by Jatinder on 2008-02-24 14:21:48
Gilchrist departs thank god he was looking very dangerous.
Posted by Jatinder on 2008-02-24 14:29:27
Posted by Jatinder on 2008-02-24 14:29:27
Hayden on fire!
Posted by Jatinder on 2008-02-24 14:33:58
Posted by Jatinder on 2008-02-24 14:33:58
Looks like a few batsman have some anger to work off after getting low bids in the IPL.
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-02-24 14:54:35
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-02-24 14:54:35
Surely Ponting & Hayden are nursing some bruised egos :-)
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 15:06:34
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 15:06:34
geez these commentators talk some crap about Dhoni illegal gloves. Such poor sports when the aussies are actually doing well
Posted by Hebs on 2008-02-24 15:41:47
Posted by Hebs on 2008-02-24 15:41:47
Aussies looking good for 325+ score.
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-02-24 15:43:01
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-02-24 15:43:01
Yeah, what's with that illegal glove thingy, is what they're saying legit' or bias com' BS?? ala Gilly sQuash ball/Asian press beat-up.
India are going to need that extra bat tonight!!
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 16:34:06
India are going to need that extra bat tonight!!
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 16:34:06
21.3 Harbhajan Singh to Clarke, 1 run, comes down the track to meet the ball outside off, driven out towards mid-on
Dhoni, by the way, has changed his gloves, possibly because of some speculation over the legality of his previous pair
21.4 Harbhajan Singh to Ponting, 1 run, driven out to mid-on
The match referee wants to have a look at the gloves to see if they're legal or not
21.5 Harbhajan Singh to Clarke, 2 runs, on middle and leg, turned off the legs in front of square
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Sounds like there was something in it. But hey don't let me stop you burning some effigies. I guess if you can't talk about India winning, it turns to whining.
Posted by Andrwe on 2008-02-24 16:45:10
Dhoni, by the way, has changed his gloves, possibly because of some speculation over the legality of his previous pair
21.4 Harbhajan Singh to Ponting, 1 run, driven out to mid-on
The match referee wants to have a look at the gloves to see if they're legal or not
21.5 Harbhajan Singh to Clarke, 2 runs, on middle and leg, turned off the legs in front of square
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Sounds like there was something in it. But hey don't let me stop you burning some effigies. I guess if you can't talk about India winning, it turns to whining.
Posted by Andrwe on 2008-02-24 16:45:10
Yeah! Just like how the Aussie fans trow tomatoes at Muralidharan, or boo Harbhajan after an independent judge threw off the childish allegations from Symonds.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 17:10:17
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 17:10:17
Wouldn't mind owing a charter jet business out of Sydney airport and an Aussie flag shop in India if those gloves are found to be illegal,$$$. Probably make enough $$$ to buy my own IPL franchise? Or just take 1 of our state teams over with the incentive of CA contracts and watch them clean every1 up?
PUnter's just got his ton'.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 17:12:40
PUnter's just got his ton'.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 17:12:40
IS Sharma's send off to Simmo, another example of "Indian Summer" hypocrisy?
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 17:40:28
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 17:40:28
Ponting gives unpleasant send-off to Harbhajan in last match between Australia & India, causing Harbhajan to actually stop & glare at Ponting.
Today Ishant Sharma, shows Symonds the direction of dressing room, and the umpires are on to him like a flash.
Can't ask a millionaire to leave?
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 18:06:01
Today Ishant Sharma, shows Symonds the direction of dressing room, and the umpires are on to him like a flash.
Can't ask a millionaire to leave?
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 18:06:01
again wht was that between symonds the cry baby and ishanth sharma.i think this time he's being labeled a cow.
Posted by vishnu on 2008-02-24 18:33:01
Posted by vishnu on 2008-02-24 18:33:01
Ponting gives unpleasant send-off to Harbhajan in last match between Australia & India, causing Harbhajan to actually stop & glare at Ponting.
Today Ishant Sharma, shows Symonds the direction of dressing room, and the umpires are on to him like a flash.
Can't ask a millionaire to leave?
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Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 18:06:01
"sama sama tapi 'lainan" (same, same but different)
Ravi,
nice try but the 2 incidents were inequitable. A bit like compare a smack on the B-hind to a punch in the face oR a "arrrr u bastards "to a universally recognised and historically abuse racist remark. Anyhow Sharma's my favourite player this year and I think he should be cut some slack considering he was none fa plenty when it happened just so long as what's good for the goose is '
India can still win this they have the bats but they will need a lot up front.
PS. I think you had better ask S.T. about what 1000000airs can and can't do as his word is holier than thou.
Opps it's back on
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 18:34:25
Today Ishant Sharma, shows Symonds the direction of dressing room, and the umpires are on to him like a flash.
Can't ask a millionaire to leave?
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Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 18:06:01
"sama sama tapi 'lainan" (same, same but different)
Ravi,
nice try but the 2 incidents were inequitable. A bit like compare a smack on the B-hind to a punch in the face oR a "arrrr u bastards "to a universally recognised and historically abuse racist remark. Anyhow Sharma's my favourite player this year and I think he should be cut some slack considering he was none fa plenty when it happened just so long as what's good for the goose is '
India can still win this they have the bats but they will need a lot up front.
PS. I think you had better ask S.T. about what 1000000airs can and can't do as his word is holier than thou.
Opps it's back on
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 18:34:25
1st over, ST out LBW LEE spells Trouble
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 18:36:39
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 18:36:39
Ishant celebrated like any bowler who got a wicket. I saw Lee many times celebrating Sachin's wicket very animatedly.
Frankly, what was wrong with Ishant's display here? He was telling Symonds was out; & the score board agrees with him. It was Symonds who was seen mouthing some stuff, god knows what.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 18:58:34
Frankly, what was wrong with Ishant's display here? He was telling Symonds was out; & the score board agrees with him. It was Symonds who was seen mouthing some stuff, god knows what.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 18:58:34
"what was wrong with Ishant's display here?"
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 18:58:34
Ravi, nothing unless you want to play by the game's laws, rules, traditions and in the spirit of' (what ever that is these days?)
Ravi have you been asleep the past 2 month? Good idea to throw fuel on the fire? oR was it a preconceived plan by India? Either way I don't mind it but it can and has escalated previously and that's why they have to stomp it out, although if it was up to me I'd probably let em go "ice hockey" out there, Think about it?? It'd pull bigger crowds than 20/20 and require a similar skill set.
3 fa, India need there 1.5 millon $$$ man to fire
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 19:21:10
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 18:58:34
Ravi, nothing unless you want to play by the game's laws, rules, traditions and in the spirit of' (what ever that is these days?)
Ravi have you been asleep the past 2 month? Good idea to throw fuel on the fire? oR was it a preconceived plan by India? Either way I don't mind it but it can and has escalated previously and that's why they have to stomp it out, although if it was up to me I'd probably let em go "ice hockey" out there, Think about it?? It'd pull bigger crowds than 20/20 and require a similar skill set.
3 fa, India need there 1.5 millon $$$ man to fire
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 19:21:10
4 fa, is a long shot
Image when Yuvraj got out and was wildly swishing his bat over the stumps in self frustration, if the bowler ran up and aggressively pointed his finger @ him and than the dressing room. Could that cause problems do we thinks?
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 19:30:06
Image when Yuvraj got out and was wildly swishing his bat over the stumps in self frustration, if the bowler ran up and aggressively pointed his finger @ him and than the dressing room. Could that cause problems do we thinks?
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 19:30:06
PhotoHog, Relax. A deep breath or two seems to be in order.
Celebrating a wicket like Ishant & sledging with personal remarks like Ponting did to Harbhajan in their last match - " lets see what he does now ..", and more unprintable verbiage are totally different.
As far as spirit, laws, traditions of the game, Aussies should be the last ones complaining.
As far as Yuvraj & Sachin are concerned, they suck in this series. Its almost a formality now when Sachin gets LBW to Lee, or out for a bouncer. A cruel joke when commentators say India lost a BIG WICKET (?), and bowlers say they prize Sachin's wicket. What a joker!
As far as Dhoni is concerned, choosing a young, inexperienced team instead of mizing experiend guys with infants, he deserves all the BS he gets. I am not holding my breath for India to be in finals.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 19:53:01
Celebrating a wicket like Ishant & sledging with personal remarks like Ponting did to Harbhajan in their last match - " lets see what he does now ..", and more unprintable verbiage are totally different.
As far as spirit, laws, traditions of the game, Aussies should be the last ones complaining.
As far as Yuvraj & Sachin are concerned, they suck in this series. Its almost a formality now when Sachin gets LBW to Lee, or out for a bouncer. A cruel joke when commentators say India lost a BIG WICKET (?), and bowlers say they prize Sachin's wicket. What a joker!
As far as Dhoni is concerned, choosing a young, inexperienced team instead of mizing experiend guys with infants, he deserves all the BS he gets. I am not holding my breath for India to be in finals.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-24 19:53:01
Ravi,
Slater said "big wicket of ST" again, now I want to kill him tooooooooooo. I still think Dhoni's the best choice for 50 overs and hit & giggle cricket. He's got grit and a captain needs that more so than pure flair.
I am breathing; To be honest I don't really care but what Punter did was not cool nor was my summer favourite, Sharma, cool today. Harbhajan has never been cool and Simmo probably deserves what he gets provided it's not racist.
What's also not cool is my local Indian takeout guy not talking cricket tonight, it's a Sunday night tradition. (The food was still good)
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 21:09:53
Slater said "big wicket of ST" again, now I want to kill him tooooooooooo. I still think Dhoni's the best choice for 50 overs and hit & giggle cricket. He's got grit and a captain needs that more so than pure flair.
I am breathing; To be honest I don't really care but what Punter did was not cool nor was my summer favourite, Sharma, cool today. Harbhajan has never been cool and Simmo probably deserves what he gets provided it's not racist.
What's also not cool is my local Indian takeout guy not talking cricket tonight, it's a Sunday night tradition. (The food was still good)
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 21:09:53
that was a really good 100
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 21:24:55
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 21:24:55
Umm Ravi, Hawkeye had the ball hitting stumps not sure what your whinging about? Maybe Tendulker should try hitting the ball, then he can't get out to LBW... Just an idea.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-24 22:13:51
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-24 22:13:51
Gambhir and the Indian middle order played well to take it to near 300. The game was lost for India in the 1st 10 overs of both innings.
Stuart Clark is a fine test bowler but should not get to play ODI's on that strength. He had a better game tonight but still exposed his flaws in this form of the game. IMHO there are better options around.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 22:39:07
Stuart Clark is a fine test bowler but should not get to play ODI's on that strength. He had a better game tonight but still exposed his flaws in this form of the game. IMHO there are better options around.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-24 22:39:07
Photohog,
Some of your comments crack me up. Reeks of a person who's trying pretty hard to shake up the influence of the crappy crowd he's hanging around with. 'his word is holier than thou.' - this one takes the cake.
Try getting that into Ponting's head.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-24 22:57:00
Some of your comments crack me up. Reeks of a person who's trying pretty hard to shake up the influence of the crappy crowd he's hanging around with. 'his word is holier than thou.' - this one takes the cake.
Try getting that into Ponting's head.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-24 22:57:00
Not to take anything away from Australia's victory but it has become a pattern for umpires to give Tendulkar out when he is rapped on the pads.It is as though umpires are waiting for even a half chance to lift their finger against the master batsman. A shame- had Tendulkar been around even for 10 overs the result would have been different.
Posted by Varghese on 2008-02-25 05:56:09
Posted by Varghese on 2008-02-25 05:56:09
Andrew,
You misinterpreted my comment in your hurry about reusing your keyword "whinging" again.
I did not say Sachin was not out; in fact, I was complaining that Sachin should focus more on practising better rather than shopping for T-shirts & belts in Sydney's top store in between matches.
It sucks that he gets out to same ball again & again; more times out by Lee, & some by umpires. In yesterday's match he was OUT!
And you should get out of your "whinging" mindset because your comments are getting too consistent just like Sachin's dismissals.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-25 07:32:34
You misinterpreted my comment in your hurry about reusing your keyword "whinging" again.
I did not say Sachin was not out; in fact, I was complaining that Sachin should focus more on practising better rather than shopping for T-shirts & belts in Sydney's top store in between matches.
It sucks that he gets out to same ball again & again; more times out by Lee, & some by umpires. In yesterday's match he was OUT!
And you should get out of your "whinging" mindset because your comments are getting too consistent just like Sachin's dismissals.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-25 07:32:34
Varghese,
Tendulkar played a poor shot. And I would've given it if I was the umpire too.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-25 08:29:33
Tendulkar played a poor shot. And I would've given it if I was the umpire too.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-25 08:29:33
the whinger here is ponting .... whining that his team doesnt have enuf support at SCG ....
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-02-25 16:00:48
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-02-25 16:00:48
Photohog,
Some of your comments crack me up. Reeks of a person who's trying pretty hard to shake up the influence of the crappy crowd he's hanging around with. 'his word is holier than thou.' - this one takes the cake.
Try getting that into Ponting's head.
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Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-24 22:57:00
Thanks for noticing Sub', must be nice @ the top of your pile. Nah, just fishin' for entertainment, ya suppose to smile. the truth is I post Yob because it amuses me and my "crappy" Sunday Arvo "crowd". I could post self-indulgent with the self-perception of, eloquent-smartarse but NO you and "No Argument" had to go monopolise that segment of the blog, so-no-instead I had to take YOB, oh well @least it's closer to knob than snob, right? Sub' mate, in my experience the only thing more hilarious than the man in the cheap suit newly got, is the man in the Armani with the Rolex & LV apparel, now that's a monkey. Where do you fit in?
Quote: "holier than thou", whats, its, means??
pS. sarcasm and passive aggression is so 90's DUDE, at least man up and show us the "New India" and I want to see the Rolex/LV undies 1, not the frican cheap suit/leather brethcase/ intel' call centre 1.
PPs. A note in advance sub'man, ' will not be able to entertain tis Sunday as my Crowd and I will be @ da game. Will resume post Tuesday live fr5om the Gabba for your bloggun pleasure. (can blog from the Gabba)
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-25 21:33:08
Some of your comments crack me up. Reeks of a person who's trying pretty hard to shake up the influence of the crappy crowd he's hanging around with. 'his word is holier than thou.' - this one takes the cake.
Try getting that into Ponting's head.
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Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-24 22:57:00
Thanks for noticing Sub', must be nice @ the top of your pile. Nah, just fishin' for entertainment, ya suppose to smile. the truth is I post Yob because it amuses me and my "crappy" Sunday Arvo "crowd". I could post self-indulgent with the self-perception of, eloquent-smartarse but NO you and "No Argument" had to go monopolise that segment of the blog, so-no-instead I had to take YOB, oh well @least it's closer to knob than snob, right? Sub' mate, in my experience the only thing more hilarious than the man in the cheap suit newly got, is the man in the Armani with the Rolex & LV apparel, now that's a monkey. Where do you fit in?
Quote: "holier than thou", whats, its, means??
pS. sarcasm and passive aggression is so 90's DUDE, at least man up and show us the "New India" and I want to see the Rolex/LV undies 1, not the frican cheap suit/leather brethcase/ intel' call centre 1.
PPs. A note in advance sub'man, ' will not be able to entertain tis Sunday as my Crowd and I will be @ da game. Will resume post Tuesday live fr5om the Gabba for your bloggun pleasure. (can blog from the Gabba)
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-25 21:33:08
the whinger here is ponting .... whining that his team doesnt have enuf support at SCG ....
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Posted by Ghurram on 2008-02-25 16:00:48
Gee Ghurram look @ that, U found out, good for U, now be sure to tell your friends. 90'S
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-25 21:37:31
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Posted by Ghurram on 2008-02-25 16:00:48
Gee Ghurram look @ that, U found out, good for U, now be sure to tell your friends. 90'S
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-25 21:37:31
Ravi, just found out Sachin wasn't shopping for T-shirts & belts, word on the street is he was buying LV undies. The penny drops on the spate of LBW's, no man, not even the great 1, can bat in those silly-silky little buggers. They'd make the wood grow into the box and Binga sure looks like a wood chopper to me?
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-25 21:48:52
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-25 21:48:52
Thanks for noticing Sub', must be nice @ the top of your pile. Nah, just fishin' for entertainment, ya suppose to smile. the truth is I post Yob because it amuses me and my "crappy" Sunday Arvo "crowd". I could post self-indulgent with the self-perception of, eloquent-smartarse but NO you and "No Argument" had to go monopolise that segment of the blog, so-no-instead I had to take YOB, oh well @least it's closer to knob than snob, right? Sub' mate, in my experience the only thing more hilarious than the man in the cheap suit newly got, is the man in the Armani with the Rolex & LV apparel, now that's a monkey. Where do you fit in?
Quote: "holier than thou", whats, its, means??
pS. sarcasm and passive aggression is so 90's DUDE, at least man up and show us the "New India" and I want to see the Rolex/LV undies 1, not the frican cheap suit/leather brethcase/ intel' call centre 1.
PPs. A note in advance sub'man, ' will not be able to entertain tis Sunday as my Crowd and I will be @ da game. Will resume post Tuesday live fr5om the Gabba for your bloggun pleasure. (can blog from the Gabba)
Posted by PhotoHog
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The 'New India' is still learning your language. Once that's done, we'll have smart subtle asses that'll provoke Ponting and Symonds to go back crying to the match refree so the useless Qantas can atleast collect the cancellation fee from the cute stunt that BCCI will pull off.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-25 22:54:52
Quote: "holier than thou", whats, its, means??
pS. sarcasm and passive aggression is so 90's DUDE, at least man up and show us the "New India" and I want to see the Rolex/LV undies 1, not the frican cheap suit/leather brethcase/ intel' call centre 1.
PPs. A note in advance sub'man, ' will not be able to entertain tis Sunday as my Crowd and I will be @ da game. Will resume post Tuesday live fr5om the Gabba for your bloggun pleasure. (can blog from the Gabba)
Posted by PhotoHog
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The 'New India' is still learning your language. Once that's done, we'll have smart subtle asses that'll provoke Ponting and Symonds to go back crying to the match refree so the useless Qantas can atleast collect the cancellation fee from the cute stunt that BCCI will pull off.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-25 22:54:52
Photohog's comments in between others looking like a nut in the nutcracker...LOL!!!
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-25 23:13:38
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-25 23:13:38
"I could post self-indulgent with the self-perception of, eloquent-smartarse but NO you and "No Argument" had to go monopolise that segment of the blog, so-no-instead I had to take YOB, oh well @least it's closer to knob than snob, right?"
Only thing one does for this comment is to lower his/her shorts, turn around, spread the backside and show it off to photohog...
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-25 23:16:07
Only thing one does for this comment is to lower his/her shorts, turn around, spread the backside and show it off to photohog...
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-25 23:16:07
While the Aussies may be feeling happy that they have been successful in trapping Ishant Sharma, their latest headache, the entire world is wondering why it is Symond again. Strategy is simple. Australain Team and Management is using Symond not only to target their opponents but also as a shield behind whom they can keep on targetting others, knowing well that it will not be easy for others to target him because of the fear of racism charge.Now, it is up to Symond to decide what is worst. Getting abused or being used.Remember, he is being used because of his racial background.
Posted by Upender Malhotra on 2008-02-26 02:30:11
Posted by Upender Malhotra on 2008-02-26 02:30:11
Upender, you have raised a very pertinent point to ponder upon. Symonds need to stop being used by vested interests in Australia and start concentrating on his on-field performance and raking moolah at IPL...
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-26 06:24:21
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-26 06:24:21
Good point Upender.
Interestingly, Symonds always gets into a controversy just at the right time: when Australia is in a tight spot at the Sydney test, and just before the finals of the CB series.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-26 07:42:01
Interestingly, Symonds always gets into a controversy just at the right time: when Australia is in a tight spot at the Sydney test, and just before the finals of the CB series.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-26 07:42:01
"While the Aussies may be feeling happy that they have been successful in trapping Ishant Sharma" - Upender
We won an exciting game that makes us happy. Punter got a ton, that makes us happy, Sree got flogged again that makes us happy.
Seeing one of yours get fined for the most effeminate send off ever, that just makes us feel embarrassed for India.
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-02-26 08:56:54
We won an exciting game that makes us happy. Punter got a ton, that makes us happy, Sree got flogged again that makes us happy.
Seeing one of yours get fined for the most effeminate send off ever, that just makes us feel embarrassed for India.
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-02-26 08:56:54
Symonds needs to be very careful, as his easy-going good-bloke reputation is giving way to an arrogant bully as a result of some pretty bullish behaviour. There's nothing wrong with playing the game hard and having a word or two, but provocation is silly school yard tactics. He needs to mature a bit for my mind, especially since he's been failing for the majority of the season. Having said that, Ishant should show a little more maturity, and being fined is just desserts for an action that I thought had long been stamped out of the game (with the exception of that nutbag Nel)...
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-26 10:49:14
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-26 10:49:14
Since when is "Well bowled, champ" provocation?
Roy gives a compliment and gets given the finger, nice one.
Poor bugger can't do anything right.
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-02-26 11:28:14
Roy gives a compliment and gets given the finger, nice one.
Poor bugger can't do anything right.
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-02-26 11:28:14
yeah, sure that's all he said...
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-26 11:29:44
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-26 11:29:44
LOL were you there jaradevans? I must have missed you at the game. But I guess evidence is only needed when its an Indian being charged.
What he probably said was, "Too Little, Too Late"... :-)
In other news, apparently Dhoni's gloves were found to be illegal, amusing enough it was the webbing that caught Adam Gilchrist in that catch... One could argue that India took an illegal catch :-).
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-26 12:10:09
What he probably said was, "Too Little, Too Late"... :-)
In other news, apparently Dhoni's gloves were found to be illegal, amusing enough it was the webbing that caught Adam Gilchrist in that catch... One could argue that India took an illegal catch :-).
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-26 12:10:09
Nope, I wasn't. Neither was anyone else who knows what was said, other than the two standing there. He's great to watch, but he should shut the f--- up and play the bloody game.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-26 12:19:37
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-26 12:19:37
And for god's sake, don't bring up this catching malarkey again, or that's all we'll hear about from our mates over the ditch for the next 5 hours.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-26 12:20:42
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-26 12:20:42
"LOL were you there jaradevans? I must have missed you at the game. But I guess evidence is only needed when its an Indian being charged."
lol Andrew. I thought Ishant Sharma was the one who got fined. Funny to see aussies getting worked up about every silly thing. Don't worry, there's still a long way to go before an aussie is held up for what he says on the ground.
Dhoni used an illegal glove, Ponting used an illegal bat. blah blah blah..... Who won the game??? Australia....
Let us all shut up. And resume when India wins one.
And someone tell Tendulkar to play like Dhoni, blocking and blocking Indian cricket lovers out of the game. Then may be Dhoni wouldn't have the nerve to talk about Sachin in the media when the tour's on. Dhoni's a disgrace to Indian cricket. I am ashamed that my city's IPL franchise bought him for 1.5 million.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-26 14:05:45
lol Andrew. I thought Ishant Sharma was the one who got fined. Funny to see aussies getting worked up about every silly thing. Don't worry, there's still a long way to go before an aussie is held up for what he says on the ground.
Dhoni used an illegal glove, Ponting used an illegal bat. blah blah blah..... Who won the game??? Australia....
Let us all shut up. And resume when India wins one.
And someone tell Tendulkar to play like Dhoni, blocking and blocking Indian cricket lovers out of the game. Then may be Dhoni wouldn't have the nerve to talk about Sachin in the media when the tour's on. Dhoni's a disgrace to Indian cricket. I am ashamed that my city's IPL franchise bought him for 1.5 million.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-26 14:05:45
Indian cricket fans are the most fickle sports fans I have ever seen. They don't take banners to the cricket, they take whiteboards, so they the can change their support after every ball. Funniest thing I've ever seen.
Posted by P. Dorf on 2008-02-26 17:40:56
Posted by P. Dorf on 2008-02-26 17:40:56
Dhoni's gloves are legal as 'it (the webbing) is well within the specifications laid down in the law books of the game.' as reported in TOI today. Dunno why such frivolous objections are raised. May be Healy cudn't take the fact that an Indian wicketkeeper could take such a brilliant catch. One little objection and the match officials were too ready to pounce a la Mike Proctor. Regionalism? Racism? Well the word 'Monkey' wasn't involved, so it can't be racism. The Aussie newspapers were too quick to report 'ICC smacks Dhoni with kid gloves'. They should now take responsibility to update it and report the truth. The Aussies have no idea that they are paying only to be fooled every morning.
Meanwhile Symonds said he had actually told Ishant Sharma, 'Well bowled!' when all the Indian players around had heard 'Fu*k off!'! Can't imagine a batsman yelling and swearing 'Well bowled!' at a bowler. Specially from someone who maintains that 'a Test match is no place to be friendly with an opposition player'.
It's been three months now since the Melbourne Test. A lot of things have changed save one. Andrew Symonds' compulsive involvement in every fracas and his curious 'getting away' with no punishment everytime. The record books will name Harbhajan Singh, Rohit Sharma, Ishant Sharma as offenders but everyone has seen how the australians have got away with excessive and false appealing and unendurable abuse. May be the 'gloves' ploy was to taint Dhoni's image or hand a 5 match ban. But that would be too stretched an imagination, I guess.
But one thing's for sure Symonds' remains the eternal troublemaker. Fortunately for him, the opposition is paying for it.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-26 17:53:05
Meanwhile Symonds said he had actually told Ishant Sharma, 'Well bowled!' when all the Indian players around had heard 'Fu*k off!'! Can't imagine a batsman yelling and swearing 'Well bowled!' at a bowler. Specially from someone who maintains that 'a Test match is no place to be friendly with an opposition player'.
It's been three months now since the Melbourne Test. A lot of things have changed save one. Andrew Symonds' compulsive involvement in every fracas and his curious 'getting away' with no punishment everytime. The record books will name Harbhajan Singh, Rohit Sharma, Ishant Sharma as offenders but everyone has seen how the australians have got away with excessive and false appealing and unendurable abuse. May be the 'gloves' ploy was to taint Dhoni's image or hand a 5 match ban. But that would be too stretched an imagination, I guess.
But one thing's for sure Symonds' remains the eternal troublemaker. Fortunately for him, the opposition is paying for it.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-26 17:53:05
and they hardly write anything inventive or funny. I was urging a couple of my friends to put up a banner saying "SYMONDS IS GOD IN INDIA" or "GOD IS WORTH $1.35 MILLION", but bunch of wussies they are. They thought it was racist.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-26 17:56:32
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-26 17:56:32
Haha well said P. Dorf. It's easier and cheaper to carry a whiteboard, write the necessary stuff and erase them when needed rather than carry 20 banners to make 20 different expressions. Carrying whiteboards makes logical sense and also indicates their involvement throughout the match. And also, carrying whiteboards is much better than carrying bags of lunch boxes stuffed with beef to the stadium and once you get a cozy spot, spread out a sheet, hog and then snore which most aussie cricket fans do.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-26 18:03:18
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-26 18:03:18
You talk so much rubbish Zapper. The gloves are illegal and what is wrong with raising an objection? Or is it an Indian privilage now to complain. I must have missed that ruling by the BCCI I mean the ICC.
But of course Indian's don't actually complain they slander, they never make an offical complaint so the person can defend themselves, instead they write letters or make up fake charges and then withdraw them. Pretty cowardly behaviour. Either make an offical complaint or stop whinging, its not a hard thing to manage, every other team seems to manage it.
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Dhoni's gloves from an Indian paper, in case you want to accuse people of racial bias.
Dubai, February 25: The wicketkeeping gloves that Mahendra Singh Dhoni wore during the ODI loss to Australia in Sydney were on Monday ruled "illegal" by the ICC which warned the Indian skipper of a penalty if he uses them again without inspection.
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http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Dhonis-gloves-ruled-illegal-by-ICC/276905/
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-26 19:45:22
But of course Indian's don't actually complain they slander, they never make an offical complaint so the person can defend themselves, instead they write letters or make up fake charges and then withdraw them. Pretty cowardly behaviour. Either make an offical complaint or stop whinging, its not a hard thing to manage, every other team seems to manage it.
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Dhoni's gloves from an Indian paper, in case you want to accuse people of racial bias.
Dubai, February 25: The wicketkeeping gloves that Mahendra Singh Dhoni wore during the ODI loss to Australia in Sydney were on Monday ruled "illegal" by the ICC which warned the Indian skipper of a penalty if he uses them again without inspection.
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http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Dhonis-gloves-ruled-illegal-by-ICC/276905/
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-26 19:45:22
It is not nice to see the way symonds is being handled by australian team. He is being badly used by Australia to create on-field controversy. He is kinda shield for other players in the team. It is loud and clear - "You take the flak on our behalf, we are different. You fight the dirty battle with india on our behalf." VERY VERY SAD DAY!!!
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-26 21:10:12
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-26 21:10:12
Andrew I'm sorry if I'v offended you in some way. I didnt say that Dhoni's gloves were declared legal by ICC. ICC had called it illegal but today TOI reported that the team management did the necessary to conclude that the gloves were very much legal.
"We told the referee that the webbing of his (Dhoni) glove was within the specified limits but he had his doubts about the loop being a little loose," team manager BR Soni said. "We pointed out to him that the law book doesn't mention a word on that. Still, in staying within the spirit of the game, we have decided to change the gloves as well." Dunno which law Healy was talking about.
Online reports will be out by tomorrow mate.
But what pricks me andrew is that you are actually condoning what symonds' is doing to the game.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-26 21:41:39
"We told the referee that the webbing of his (Dhoni) glove was within the specified limits but he had his doubts about the loop being a little loose," team manager BR Soni said. "We pointed out to him that the law book doesn't mention a word on that. Still, in staying within the spirit of the game, we have decided to change the gloves as well." Dunno which law Healy was talking about.
Online reports will be out by tomorrow mate.
But what pricks me andrew is that you are actually condoning what symonds' is doing to the game.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-26 21:41:39
No Argument, I can't believe how quick you & ya mates can work stuff out. you should get a J-O-B with the BCCI on counter aussie tactics. You would be a great TOOL, maybe even a double 0.
Shit dudes, so CA got the Indian spectators and Herbies to call Simmo a monkey and then they got him to tell Sharma to F off after he politely pointed to where the restrooms were?? Was this before or after they bought off all the umpires and match officals?? I'm f'can toooooooo slow man, cut me into ya loop, I need information.
Zapperrrrr, Symonds' has been target, what do you think the real reason for that is?? (Ya sound like a smart guy so I'll give you 2 goes).
Zap' it'll probably never come out but the gloves were illegal,check your rule book, and review the pic's. For the 1st time in his life Healy was right but wat about Gillys F'n squash ball mate? get on it!
PS.No Argument, if you show me your bare arse 1 more time on this blog you will hear the nutcracker "sweet" close up..
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-26 23:43:26
Shit dudes, so CA got the Indian spectators and Herbies to call Simmo a monkey and then they got him to tell Sharma to F off after he politely pointed to where the restrooms were?? Was this before or after they bought off all the umpires and match officals?? I'm f'can toooooooo slow man, cut me into ya loop, I need information.
Zapperrrrr, Symonds' has been target, what do you think the real reason for that is?? (Ya sound like a smart guy so I'll give you 2 goes).
Zap' it'll probably never come out but the gloves were illegal,check your rule book, and review the pic's. For the 1st time in his life Healy was right but wat about Gillys F'n squash ball mate? get on it!
PS.No Argument, if you show me your bare arse 1 more time on this blog you will hear the nutcracker "sweet" close up..
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-26 23:43:26
I am more upset with what India is doing to the game Zapper, to file false charges or to accuse another team, without giving them a chance to respond officially is spineless. If India had any real spirit they would either shut up or if they honestly believe rules are being broken ask for charges to be laid. Otherwise its just throwing dirt.
Also Zapper there are several issues Healy had with the glove. Here is the law:
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Law 40.2, which deal with the specifications for wicketkeepers' gloves, states that "if the wicketkeeper wears gloves, they shall have no webbing between the fingers except joining index finger and thumb, where webbing may be inserted as a means of support. If used, the webbing shall be (a) a single piece of non-stretch material which, although it may have facing material attached, shall have no reinforcement or tucks. (b) such that the top edge of the webbing (i) does not protrude beyond the straight line joining the top of the index finger to the top of the thumb; (ii) is taut when a hand wearing the glove has the thumb fully extended."
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/cbs/content/story/339600.html
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In the picture attached of Dhoni you can how there could be an issue. In fact the glove breach the laws on both clauses. You can see the webbing is curved not a straight piece of material and it rises above the line between the Index finger and the thumb in a significant way. The obvious one is the reinforcement of the webbing. There is the curved strip of material and it has a vertical component attached of reinforcing the webbing.
No Argument your responses are getting rather predictable, if India win, its all about the mental strength and glory of India. If India lose you start whining something about Australia.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-26 23:59:17
Also Zapper there are several issues Healy had with the glove. Here is the law:
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Law 40.2, which deal with the specifications for wicketkeepers' gloves, states that "if the wicketkeeper wears gloves, they shall have no webbing between the fingers except joining index finger and thumb, where webbing may be inserted as a means of support. If used, the webbing shall be (a) a single piece of non-stretch material which, although it may have facing material attached, shall have no reinforcement or tucks. (b) such that the top edge of the webbing (i) does not protrude beyond the straight line joining the top of the index finger to the top of the thumb; (ii) is taut when a hand wearing the glove has the thumb fully extended."
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/cbs/content/story/339600.html
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In the picture attached of Dhoni you can how there could be an issue. In fact the glove breach the laws on both clauses. You can see the webbing is curved not a straight piece of material and it rises above the line between the Index finger and the thumb in a significant way. The obvious one is the reinforcement of the webbing. There is the curved strip of material and it has a vertical component attached of reinforcing the webbing.
No Argument your responses are getting rather predictable, if India win, its all about the mental strength and glory of India. If India lose you start whining something about Australia.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-26 23:59:17
There is some serious misunderstanding.
"to file false charges or to accuse another team, without giving them a chance to respond officially is spineless." This is exactly what the Indians are trying to say! Tell me Andrew who has been filing 'false charges' in past two months? First it was against Singh and now against Sharma. India's retaliatory charge against Hogg was withdrawn as a goodwill gesture. Nothing from the aussies in return. Infact they called the withdrawal as a sign of the Indians' lack of belief. What an outlook! Indians believe in Ahimsa and would never be the first one to bite. True Harbhajan is an offender but you must open your eyes to Symonds' faults. I hope sharing the same name doesn't stop you from being unbiased towards him.
As far as Dhoni's gloves are concerned, have a look at this picture:
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2835476.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6DD878E564ECFAC299930FDCFC4C15FBB
In what way is Adam Gilchrist's glove not dissimilar to Dhoni's? If Dhoni's breaking the law then Gilly's doing it for a decade my friend. No one has raised an objection and you know it why. But we all know ICC rules are crap - they end up punishing players who are provoked and the provoker gets away if he's the first one to complain.
Here are some more wicketkeeping gloves up for sale:
http://wicketsshop.co.uk/images/prot_WKGen_glove.jpg
http://product-images.paidonresults.net/1/255751-200x200.jpg
http://www.lordsinternational.com/shop/catalog/images/scorpionwkglove05.jpg
http://www.ace-sports.co.uk/images/bully.jpg
Some of them are australian made.
It just took a brilliant catch and a comment from an aussie and so much razmataz. Wonder what would have happened if Gilly was accused by let's say Sunil Gavaskar. He would have been thrown away from Australia by the barrage directed at him.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 03:34:51
"to file false charges or to accuse another team, without giving them a chance to respond officially is spineless." This is exactly what the Indians are trying to say! Tell me Andrew who has been filing 'false charges' in past two months? First it was against Singh and now against Sharma. India's retaliatory charge against Hogg was withdrawn as a goodwill gesture. Nothing from the aussies in return. Infact they called the withdrawal as a sign of the Indians' lack of belief. What an outlook! Indians believe in Ahimsa and would never be the first one to bite. True Harbhajan is an offender but you must open your eyes to Symonds' faults. I hope sharing the same name doesn't stop you from being unbiased towards him.
As far as Dhoni's gloves are concerned, have a look at this picture:
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2835476.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6DD878E564ECFAC299930FDCFC4C15FBB
In what way is Adam Gilchrist's glove not dissimilar to Dhoni's? If Dhoni's breaking the law then Gilly's doing it for a decade my friend. No one has raised an objection and you know it why. But we all know ICC rules are crap - they end up punishing players who are provoked and the provoker gets away if he's the first one to complain.
Here are some more wicketkeeping gloves up for sale:
http://wicketsshop.co.uk/images/prot_WKGen_glove.jpg
http://product-images.paidonresults.net/1/255751-200x200.jpg
http://www.lordsinternational.com/shop/catalog/images/scorpionwkglove05.jpg
http://www.ace-sports.co.uk/images/bully.jpg
Some of them are australian made.
It just took a brilliant catch and a comment from an aussie and so much razmataz. Wonder what would have happened if Gilly was accused by let's say Sunil Gavaskar. He would have been thrown away from Australia by the barrage directed at him.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 03:34:51
i have watched or listened to all the games this summer. and read all the comments here.
heres my view:
i bet you none of us had ever read the law on gloves before now! suddenly we are experts? from the pictures the look very similar to gilly's. i can see no visible difference.
so im with india on that one. overzealous officials wanting to get one back on indias bullying of the icc.
on the issue of symonds "getting away" with provoking the Indians. what law is symonds breaking? did they change the law!? you cant talk to the opposition? no. what is really happening here is the australians know the law! the Indians (as judged by the officials) keep breaking the laws. learn the laws india! you have lost the mental battle and you are losing the cricket as a result.
finally i would be nice if we only had tendulkars and dravids and laxmans and gilchrists and M.waughs playing. but we have harbajahns and symonds and smiths also. i think cricket is richer for it.
just stay within the laws! (or use you power to change the laws) as is probably going to happen!
anyways lets just enjoy the contest!!!
Posted by offthefence on 2008-02-27 04:02:23
heres my view:
i bet you none of us had ever read the law on gloves before now! suddenly we are experts? from the pictures the look very similar to gilly's. i can see no visible difference.
so im with india on that one. overzealous officials wanting to get one back on indias bullying of the icc.
on the issue of symonds "getting away" with provoking the Indians. what law is symonds breaking? did they change the law!? you cant talk to the opposition? no. what is really happening here is the australians know the law! the Indians (as judged by the officials) keep breaking the laws. learn the laws india! you have lost the mental battle and you are losing the cricket as a result.
finally i would be nice if we only had tendulkars and dravids and laxmans and gilchrists and M.waughs playing. but we have harbajahns and symonds and smiths also. i think cricket is richer for it.
just stay within the laws! (or use you power to change the laws) as is probably going to happen!
anyways lets just enjoy the contest!!!
Posted by offthefence on 2008-02-27 04:02:23
And some pics of the man himself.
http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_cricket/HEALY_Ian_19930521_GH_R.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40375000/jpg/_40375211_warne_300_100gi.jpg
How could Healy complain when he himself didn't use 'legal' gloves? I'm so tempted to call this Aussie hypocrisy but I guess I shouldn't generalise.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 04:05:28
http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_cricket/HEALY_Ian_19930521_GH_R.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40375000/jpg/_40375211_warne_300_100gi.jpg
How could Healy complain when he himself didn't use 'legal' gloves? I'm so tempted to call this Aussie hypocrisy but I guess I shouldn't generalise.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 04:05:28
Hahaha... Zapper and fellow Indian friends. I don't know if Dhoni's gloves are illegal or not and have no patience to read the stupid laws of the game to come to a conclusion.
But I can see very easily the entire conspiracy, when the ugly duckling got his induction into Hall of Fame yesterday. It seems to be a recognition for the crappy and highly biased commentary he has provided throughout the entire series. So to me, when Healy accuses an opponent team of something, it becomes biased by rule. Healy's a disgrace to the commentary team. Why don't people learn from Richie Benaud?
That stupid grin wants me to punch his face every time.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-27 08:07:40
But I can see very easily the entire conspiracy, when the ugly duckling got his induction into Hall of Fame yesterday. It seems to be a recognition for the crappy and highly biased commentary he has provided throughout the entire series. So to me, when Healy accuses an opponent team of something, it becomes biased by rule. Healy's a disgrace to the commentary team. Why don't people learn from Richie Benaud?
That stupid grin wants me to punch his face every time.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-27 08:07:40
Following Aussie commentary team, you can see how badly they want opposing team to fail. Heard in one match Healy commenting that India would lose wickets in a heap to be some 50/4, after the openers went back to the hut. Sadly he was wrong, but his biased opinion & his stupidity in voicing out with ill concealed glee was ugly to the core!
Seems like Matty hayden also is hardly an introvert. Ugly Aussie players!
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-27 09:44:42
Seems like Matty hayden also is hardly an introvert. Ugly Aussie players!
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-27 09:44:42
A nice compilation for the Aussie fans to consider at http://i3j3cricket.wordpress.com/
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-27 11:36:52
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-27 11:36:52
Subhash, I'm kind of hoping Heals was admitted to the hall of bollocks for his on field displays and brief tenure as world record holder, rather than his commentary...
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 11:40:03
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 11:40:03
A blog for Indian fans Ravi? Yeah, objectivity at its best...
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 11:40:57
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 11:40:57
jaradevans,
Indian cricket fans are not exactly known for their objectivity. Neither is Healy and the other asswipe Slater.
Both teams are behaving like school kids, but I still would support my school's kid.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-27 12:15:09
Indian cricket fans are not exactly known for their objectivity. Neither is Healy and the other asswipe Slater.
Both teams are behaving like school kids, but I still would support my school's kid.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-27 12:15:09
The glove laws are not that difficult. Look at the picture Zapper provided.
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2835476.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6DD878E564ECFAC299930FDCFC4C15FBB
Look at Gilchrist's right hand, now imagine a line drawn between the top of the thumnb and the top of the index finger. The material is not allowed to go over that line. Its quite simple, Gilchrist's gloves are fine. Also see how if you took the material off the glove it would be a straight piece of leather.
Compare that Dhoni's glove which curves significantly out of the glove and has a vertical piece of leather to reinforce the loop.
But hey Zapper explain to me that if Gilchrist's gloves were also illegal how come he hasn't has his removed. Simple his are fine, Dhoni's are not. They are illegal its as simple as that. But hey India can never be wrong, I guess Crowe will have to be sacked soon or maybe Healy for having nerve to suggest that an Indian might do something wrong.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-27 13:16:33
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2835476.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6DD878E564ECFAC299930FDCFC4C15FBB
Look at Gilchrist's right hand, now imagine a line drawn between the top of the thumnb and the top of the index finger. The material is not allowed to go over that line. Its quite simple, Gilchrist's gloves are fine. Also see how if you took the material off the glove it would be a straight piece of leather.
Compare that Dhoni's glove which curves significantly out of the glove and has a vertical piece of leather to reinforce the loop.
But hey Zapper explain to me that if Gilchrist's gloves were also illegal how come he hasn't has his removed. Simple his are fine, Dhoni's are not. They are illegal its as simple as that. But hey India can never be wrong, I guess Crowe will have to be sacked soon or maybe Healy for having nerve to suggest that an Indian might do something wrong.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-27 13:16:33
Andrew I didnt find the webbing in Dhoni's gloves extending to an extent which might cause an uproar. It is same as that of Gilly's or Healy's. And how can u say that Gilly's gloves didnt have the reinforcement, as a reinforcement doesn't need to protrude or be on the surface. The webbing reinforcement might very well be inside as it doesnt need a finger to fit it.
From the picture it is obvious that the advantage for both the gloves (Gilly and Dhoni's) is same. I dont see punishing Dhoni for this.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 14:44:10
From the picture it is obvious that the advantage for both the gloves (Gilly and Dhoni's) is same. I dont see punishing Dhoni for this.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 14:44:10
And Gilly's gloves were not questioned not because of its legality/illegality bu because he's on the same as the skeptics and they'd never question him.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 14:47:20
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 14:47:20
You mean kid's school... you seem to forget commentators aren't there to describe the game. It's being shown on the box, so you don't need some idiot telling you what you are seeing. They are there to entertain, which they attempt to provide by giving their sixpence worth. The more controversial the better it seems. I tend to turn the commentary off and listen to the radio, as at least they can describe a game. Then the radio wheels out twats like Kerry O'Keefe-my-mouth-shut-else-the-ABC-will-be-charged-with-libel, and that ruins it also. Personally, I like my own commentary. Amuses me, and anyone else in the vicinity.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 14:51:35
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 14:51:35
I hope there is someone there Jaradevans, talking to yourself is a bit of a worry.
Zapper your an idiot, have you even seen Dhoni's gloves the close ups channel nine did of Dhoni's gloves made the issue obvious. But your so biased Dhoni could be waring baseball mitts and you would still defend him.
Also I hate to disappoint you, but don't you think good old Dhoni would have pointed out that Gilchrists gloves were the same. Instead he just mumbles something about how he think they were maybe borderline illegal.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-27 15:46:36
Zapper your an idiot, have you even seen Dhoni's gloves the close ups channel nine did of Dhoni's gloves made the issue obvious. But your so biased Dhoni could be waring baseball mitts and you would still defend him.
Also I hate to disappoint you, but don't you think good old Dhoni would have pointed out that Gilchrists gloves were the same. Instead he just mumbles something about how he think they were maybe borderline illegal.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-27 15:46:36
I agree, jaradevans. The Channel 9 box is in dire need of an honest, unbiased guy who speaks logic. At this moment the box is run by jingoists who are making false claims. I'm trying to figure out how they always have some evidence whereas other channels have none. To have evidence one needs to dig deep and believe me a lot of shit about everyone teams would surface then. Given they are highly biased they always have shit about touring teams whereas every other cricket nation maintains it is australia who have plenty of shit.
Andrew I hate to disappoint u too. From the 'about me' section it appears you are much older than me and only that stops me from calling you an idiot. Close ups of all wicketkeepers'gloves would reveal a lot my friend. Get the point. If Dhoni has changed his gloves doesnt mean he's wronged. I guess the aussie way is, 'In belligerence lies veracity'. That's not the case in asian countries.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 16:05:44
Andrew I hate to disappoint u too. From the 'about me' section it appears you are much older than me and only that stops me from calling you an idiot. Close ups of all wicketkeepers'gloves would reveal a lot my friend. Get the point. If Dhoni has changed his gloves doesnt mean he's wronged. I guess the aussie way is, 'In belligerence lies veracity'. That's not the case in asian countries.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 16:05:44
*overlook the typos
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 16:06:35
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 16:06:35
Hey Zapper Dhoni didn't "agree" to change gloves, he got told his gloves are illegal and if he wore them again he would be penalised, this ruling was passed by the Match Umpire. Not the channel nine commentory team.
Zapper by the way I am not Andrew Mosey, just Andrew, but my age isn't far off his if that is important. But good to know your checking up on me, I will sleep safer tonight. Mosey will always post with his full name or his last name.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-27 16:30:56
Zapper by the way I am not Andrew Mosey, just Andrew, but my age isn't far off his if that is important. But good to know your checking up on me, I will sleep safer tonight. Mosey will always post with his full name or his last name.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-27 16:30:56
Andrew, there are benefits in talking to your self - firstly, you'll always agree, and it will be some of the most intelligent conversation you'll get all day....
My ideal commentators for an India v Australia test series would be (apologies to my indian friends if the spelling is a bit out..):
- Harsha Bogle - like some of his insight, and he knows indian domestic cricket really well;
- Ravi Shastri - tonnes of experience and calls a spade a spade;
- Jonathan Agnew - clearly the most impartial commentator on the planet
- Richie Benaud - sorry, love him
- David Gower - his dry humour i think would appeal to both sets of fans, plus you can't argue with his knowledge of the game
- Ian Chappell - whilst he gets on many people's wicks, he at least knows the game and isn't afraid to point out deficiencies in any tactic or approach.
- Ian Botham - love his commentary in England and again is someone who can add some insight based on experience.
Those are the ones I can stomach, anyway...
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 16:37:17
My ideal commentators for an India v Australia test series would be (apologies to my indian friends if the spelling is a bit out..):
- Harsha Bogle - like some of his insight, and he knows indian domestic cricket really well;
- Ravi Shastri - tonnes of experience and calls a spade a spade;
- Jonathan Agnew - clearly the most impartial commentator on the planet
- Richie Benaud - sorry, love him
- David Gower - his dry humour i think would appeal to both sets of fans, plus you can't argue with his knowledge of the game
- Ian Chappell - whilst he gets on many people's wicks, he at least knows the game and isn't afraid to point out deficiencies in any tactic or approach.
- Ian Botham - love his commentary in England and again is someone who can add some insight based on experience.
Those are the ones I can stomach, anyway...
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 16:37:17
Hayden, the Mr. Perfect of cricket does it. Calling Bhajji an obnoxious weed. So much so for trying to improve relations between the 2 teams. Hypocrit idiot. Does'nt he realize that biggest and most obnoxious weed and cry baby, Saint Symonds is in their team. Only thing is that he is one of the previlaged few (see entire Aussie team)who are never reported. He was involved in the Bhajji controversy, then in Ishant controversy. No one saw that both the instances were started by him, but guess what the opposition gets penalized.
Yup, and if showing batsmen the way to the pavilion is an offence under ICC rules, then so is celebrating before appealing for a wicket (see Lee's LBW dismissal of Tendulkar).
The best part is that Bhajji is being called names while the last time he was in news was because the Aussie captain, Saint Ponting had a few words of encouragement for him, after Bhajji's dismissal in their last encounter.
But the point is Aussie's are always right and the rest are always wrong. Long live Saint Hydo .
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-02-27 16:46:02
Yup, and if showing batsmen the way to the pavilion is an offence under ICC rules, then so is celebrating before appealing for a wicket (see Lee's LBW dismissal of Tendulkar).
The best part is that Bhajji is being called names while the last time he was in news was because the Aussie captain, Saint Ponting had a few words of encouragement for him, after Bhajji's dismissal in their last encounter.
But the point is Aussie's are always right and the rest are always wrong. Long live Saint Hydo .
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-02-27 16:46:02
And what about sunny - the most incisive analyst in the commentary box.
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 16:52:37
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 16:52:37
Sunny is an insolent turd. If he ever appears on my tv screen again i'll smash it. I was trying to select objective and interesting commentators who may have respect in all communities. Gavaskar is a twunt, and a bigger one after his Hookes comments.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 16:58:01
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 16:58:01
Sunny is an excellent commentator with excellent insight, second to none, into varied subjects... his analysis is one of the reason I switch my TV on....
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 17:01:13
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 17:01:13
Hello Andrew. Thanks for the clarification.
As far as Gavaskar goes, I too dont like him. But his one-eyed perspectives keeps a nice balance between channel 9 and star cricket commentary teams.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 17:03:54
As far as Gavaskar goes, I too dont like him. But his one-eyed perspectives keeps a nice balance between channel 9 and star cricket commentary teams.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 17:03:54
Hayden calling Bhajji "Obnoxious Weed". And Hayden?... that "Ancient Banyan Tree"... the doyen of Wisdom as endless as Atlantic Ocean.... Whose sagacity knows no bound...
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 17:04:36
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 17:04:36
Hahaha No Argument.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 17:12:21
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-27 17:12:21
So what's Sundill's opinion of the umpire's decision, and cases where he doesn't agree with it? Does he storm out of the commentary box? Dwarf.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 17:23:50
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 17:23:50
They should revoke his visa.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 17:25:11
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 17:25:11
Walking out is a saintly act in a land where the sportsmanship has been elevated to a different level altogether, not now but more than two decades back...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJJ3wDv1o1M
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 17:28:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJJ3wDv1o1M
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 17:28:12
Well i'd wish he's walk out of the commentary box. I'd pay for his ticket home personally.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 17:37:45
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 17:37:45
The origination of all the controversey is India's resilience... Haydo, Symo, Ponting & Co thought in their hallucination that they would crush india like a 3rd division club team without realizing that India is also an international team... the body language and the interviews by aussie players while leaving india were like "Let's see what happens in our fast pitches"... i still remember what symo and ponting said in the interviews... the results in the current series do not really show how badly the bubble has burst... indian pacers have consistently outplayed comprehensively lee & co in fast pitches, that without no 1 bowler Zaheer... That has rankled aussie players a lot. They are not able to stomach that India has a better bowling line up and it's not possible for clark & others to storm the dust on the ground... very pedestrian attack, i must say..
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 17:41:57
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 17:41:57
outplayed Lee? were we watching the same test series? Pedestrian attack?? Johnson got better as time went on, and his pace never dropped below 145, even on 12 over spells. As with the 2005 ashes, the australian batsman failed to adapt to the tactics being employed. Don't fool yourself into thinking India's pace attack is up with Australia as yet. In the spinning department, India certainly are superior. I'm happy with Lee, Clark and Johnson for the next few years, with a fair few others in the wings. We'll just have to wait and see....
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 17:50:28
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 17:50:28
"with a fair few others in the wings"
May I know who are they? you like it or not, lee & co anyway have to pull the burden for few years as there are no replacements in sight...
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 18:01:39
May I know who are they? you like it or not, lee & co anyway have to pull the burden for few years as there are no replacements in sight...
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 18:01:39
Hilfenhaus, Tait (when he's back, and he will be), Steve Magoffin, Shane Watson (when he's fit), Bryce McGain, Dan Cullen, Allan Wise, Cullen Bailey, Nathan Bracken (why he hasn't been given more of a go i don't know), Doug Bollinger, Brett Geeves, Mat Inness, Ashley Noffke... all could have been given a go, but for the excellent work being done by the 4 front line bowlers.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 18:13:45
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 18:13:45
perhaps the most neutral commentators out here shud be jaradevans,JC and andrew mosey and a few others ... praise you guys.
Gavaskar to Star Cricket is what is Healy to Channel Nine. Jingoistic to a great extent, and funny. Waz is a joke with his language, blurts out literally anything ... though I admire his sporting credentials.
Shastri is the best amongst the Indian commentators, and Bhogle runs him close, for a chap who never played cricket, he is tremendous.
And about the gloves issue, its the same params used for both gilly and dhoni (check out today's newspapers, the manufacturer of those gloves quoted it clearly !!!)
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-02-27 18:14:01
Gavaskar to Star Cricket is what is Healy to Channel Nine. Jingoistic to a great extent, and funny. Waz is a joke with his language, blurts out literally anything ... though I admire his sporting credentials.
Shastri is the best amongst the Indian commentators, and Bhogle runs him close, for a chap who never played cricket, he is tremendous.
And about the gloves issue, its the same params used for both gilly and dhoni (check out today's newspapers, the manufacturer of those gloves quoted it clearly !!!)
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-02-27 18:14:01
Cheers Ghurram, I'm available for parties and social barbeques.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 18:15:28
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 18:15:28
well, bracken is good but Tait? Watson? Am I reading it right? or you had few pints in the belly... let's not talk tait... grow up
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 18:24:34
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 18:24:34
Brad Hogg retires:
Off topic but Brad Hogg, adding to the list has announced his retirement from international cricket. A bit surprising considering he was likely to be picked for the coming tours...
His tongue was his constant companion and his energy really gave us some good moments. It is amazing that NOONE was EVER able to pick his wrong'un perfectly. He also has 2 world cup winner medals.
Thanks George...Wishin ya all the best..
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-02-27 18:26:09
Off topic but Brad Hogg, adding to the list has announced his retirement from international cricket. A bit surprising considering he was likely to be picked for the coming tours...
His tongue was his constant companion and his energy really gave us some good moments. It is amazing that NOONE was EVER able to pick his wrong'un perfectly. He also has 2 world cup winner medals.
Thanks George...Wishin ya all the best..
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-02-27 18:26:09
The sideways trophy has to be awarded to Photohog for most insane comments....
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 18:26:27
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 18:26:27
we will talk tait, as an elite sportsman who has had numerous injuries, like yourself i'm sure No Idea, and at the age of 24 you need to give your body a rest, and your mind also. he'll come back stronger no worries. Lee, THE BEST fast bowler in the world at the moment, was very similar when we was the same age, but he matured over time. You must be too young to remember...
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 18:52:07
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 18:52:07
And I'm about to go home and get some pints in (or, pots, or schooners as we call them here). Just wait until I get broadie at home, then you'll hear some good stuff after a few!!!
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 18:53:40
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-27 18:53:40
Matty Hayden may be let off with a fine by CA apparently. With even better luck, not even that, bcoz we are talking of an Aussie player.
Surely he will be pissed for smoking that weed. He does not get any love in IPL, and now this fine on top of that
And what a stupid controversy within a day after receiving best one-day player award.
He should learn from McGrath about the need for grown-up not to be known for gutter mouths when they retire ...
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-27 19:04:40
Surely he will be pissed for smoking that weed. He does not get any love in IPL, and now this fine on top of that
And what a stupid controversy within a day after receiving best one-day player award.
He should learn from McGrath about the need for grown-up not to be known for gutter mouths when they retire ...
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-27 19:04:40
"Maybe, they realise that they no longer are the undisputed champions of the world. Maybe, they feel the crown is slipping. Otherwise, why a cricket veteran would ask a 19-year-old (Ishant Sharma) to join him in a ring?," he said in reaction to the latest provocation by Hayden.
Bhajji's comments in Times Of India. More on this good piece of news:
Harbhajan was also surprised at the Australian opener's statement which said that Indians were complaining "because they are losing every game they are playing".
"Really, you think so? I would have thought we are the only ones who have got the Australians on the run this summer," he said.
Apparently, Ponting kept having a go at Harbhajan in Adelaide, asking him "to show what he had got" in the middle.
Harbhajan, on his part, had then cheekily remarked: "Mate, whatever I have shown in the middle has been better than yours in the series so far."
It appeared to have stung the Australian captain who asked Harbhajan to "f... off" after the latter was dismissed. A departing Harbhajan, on hearing so, stopped and turned round only to see Ponting disappear among celebrating Aussies.
"They do it so well," Harbhajan said grudgingly "they keep the back to you when they have something nasty to say to the opponent."
Like a Coward!!! Is Ponting a Victorian Shy newly married bride talking to bridegroom facing the other way....shame, shame, shame!!!
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 19:45:56
Bhajji's comments in Times Of India. More on this good piece of news:
Harbhajan was also surprised at the Australian opener's statement which said that Indians were complaining "because they are losing every game they are playing".
"Really, you think so? I would have thought we are the only ones who have got the Australians on the run this summer," he said.
Apparently, Ponting kept having a go at Harbhajan in Adelaide, asking him "to show what he had got" in the middle.
Harbhajan, on his part, had then cheekily remarked: "Mate, whatever I have shown in the middle has been better than yours in the series so far."
It appeared to have stung the Australian captain who asked Harbhajan to "f... off" after the latter was dismissed. A departing Harbhajan, on hearing so, stopped and turned round only to see Ponting disappear among celebrating Aussies.
"They do it so well," Harbhajan said grudgingly "they keep the back to you when they have something nasty to say to the opponent."
Like a Coward!!! Is Ponting a Victorian Shy newly married bride talking to bridegroom facing the other way....shame, shame, shame!!!
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 19:45:56
Can anybody here tell me a good sledging institute in Sydney or Melbourne? I would like to get trained as I want to be a trainer to indian team coaching camp. Please let me know the schedule, cost, the subjects covered and the certification process. In sledging course, do we have grades like you have in various quality programs like 6 sigma - green belt, black belt etc etc...
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 20:08:16
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 20:08:16
No Argument -- here's one for you :D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1O04GPf-Q
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-02-27 21:13:31
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1O04GPf-Q
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-02-27 21:13:31
Ghurram - thanks for the info. For foreign students who are naive and amateurish as far as the skill level in sledging is concerned, is there any initial screening done? If so, is there any preparatory material available which will help me in making the grade? What are the minimum criteria I need to fulfill for me to even being considered for screening test? I am feeling very nervous as I heard the competition is really stiff and the quality of students in the academy is awesome....It's Ivy League amongst sledging academies...
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 21:28:18
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 21:28:18
I have started preparing with the help of following videos. I am practicing in front of mirrors, trying to mimic the same stuff... but I am having big problem as I need to turn around and face away while saying something nasty and I am not able to judge how well I am doing as I am facing away from mirror....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tCjf58Tw5A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IsVsLh-yGs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi_t10pGN5g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQSKmatIN3k&feature=related
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 21:40:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tCjf58Tw5A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IsVsLh-yGs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi_t10pGN5g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQSKmatIN3k&feature=related
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 21:40:45
After living in Australia for 13 years, I have always maintained it to be an unbiased country, accepting and assimilating people of all cultures.
The Indian cricket tour of 2007/08 has been an eye opener ! I had no idea about this underlying hatred of all things non anglo-saxon!
The Australian views during this series have been totally one sided - of a mob scared to loose their hold. After having controlled cricket and cricket rules for so long, it is hard for them to accept that a lowly developing nation should have the audacity to come even remotely close to them - hence the constant jibes on BCCI.
Obviously the feeling is that Aussies are sacred - how dare anyone even dream of doubting their story. Indians are condemned - just because they are Indians.
This is similar to the time when Hansie Cronje was first accused of match fixing. Newspaper headlines read "It is not possible - he is a good Christian" - meaning Indians are liars because they are not Christians! Of course what happened next is well documented. Cronje was found guilty - despite his religious faith and colour of skin.
The so called Western society has a lot of soul searching to do .... but as they say every dog has his day !
It is indeed sad to see this side of Australia !
Posted by aghast on 2008-02-27 22:43:36
The Indian cricket tour of 2007/08 has been an eye opener ! I had no idea about this underlying hatred of all things non anglo-saxon!
The Australian views during this series have been totally one sided - of a mob scared to loose their hold. After having controlled cricket and cricket rules for so long, it is hard for them to accept that a lowly developing nation should have the audacity to come even remotely close to them - hence the constant jibes on BCCI.
Obviously the feeling is that Aussies are sacred - how dare anyone even dream of doubting their story. Indians are condemned - just because they are Indians.
This is similar to the time when Hansie Cronje was first accused of match fixing. Newspaper headlines read "It is not possible - he is a good Christian" - meaning Indians are liars because they are not Christians! Of course what happened next is well documented. Cronje was found guilty - despite his religious faith and colour of skin.
The so called Western society has a lot of soul searching to do .... but as they say every dog has his day !
It is indeed sad to see this side of Australia !
Posted by aghast on 2008-02-27 22:43:36
Quite understandably & expectedly, Matty Hayden is let off with a reprimand.
He maintains his innocence, and did not want to denigrate anyone, after calling Harbhajan an "obnoxious little weed". He says he called Harbhajan a "bad boy" instead of "mad boy".
Has this guy & folks supporting his stand been ever to school?
Matty Hayden behaves like a 19 year old, compared to Ishant who actually went to congratulate Symonds after his century in Sydeny, even after being cheated of his wicket. Can Aussie players (except Gilly) ever be accused of such a sporting gesture?
For "allegedly" calling Symonds a "monkey", Harbhajan was docked 50% match fees & closely avoided match ban on an appeal. How is Matty's remarks on Harbhajan any different?
Playing good cricket is just not enough. Players represent their country & are role models, and should act sensibly. These Aussie players make Harbhajan look like a saint!
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-28 06:59:58
He maintains his innocence, and did not want to denigrate anyone, after calling Harbhajan an "obnoxious little weed". He says he called Harbhajan a "bad boy" instead of "mad boy".
Has this guy & folks supporting his stand been ever to school?
Matty Hayden behaves like a 19 year old, compared to Ishant who actually went to congratulate Symonds after his century in Sydeny, even after being cheated of his wicket. Can Aussie players (except Gilly) ever be accused of such a sporting gesture?
For "allegedly" calling Symonds a "monkey", Harbhajan was docked 50% match fees & closely avoided match ban on an appeal. How is Matty's remarks on Harbhajan any different?
Playing good cricket is just not enough. Players represent their country & are role models, and should act sensibly. These Aussie players make Harbhajan look like a saint!
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-28 06:59:58
With double standards like this - one rule for Aussie players, and another for Asian teams by ICC, have caused many Asian players to be charged more than Aussie players.
Matty Hayden refers to this as if he pulled a law point to assasinate the character & reputation of Harbhajan.
What a bunch of slam dunk losers!
Thankfully, arrogant policies by the US in the past have not stopped India from being an economic power today, and dumb policies like "mental disintegration" & "unfair play" despite having odes of stunning talent by the Aussies will not stop India from achieving its cricketing potential sooner than later.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-28 07:06:21
Matty Hayden refers to this as if he pulled a law point to assasinate the character & reputation of Harbhajan.
What a bunch of slam dunk losers!
Thankfully, arrogant policies by the US in the past have not stopped India from being an economic power today, and dumb policies like "mental disintegration" & "unfair play" despite having odes of stunning talent by the Aussies will not stop India from achieving its cricketing potential sooner than later.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-28 07:06:21
You guys ever actually listened to the radio station that interviewed Hayden where the comments were made? Wouldn't be categorising the interview with anything other than aiming at the kinds of listeners that wouldn't be as analytic as you are (and i'm not saying that as a bad thing).
So much emphasis is placed on what someone says in the media, rather than attitudes towards one another on the field. That is what we should be concentrating on, not what some shock statement is repeated on an entertainment program on morning radio.
And lets be honest, these guys are all heading to India to line their pockets before they're too old to pick up a bat/ball anymore, so I wouldn't have thought there's THAT much animosity felt towards our subcontinental friends.
Ravi, character assassination would require someone to point out a valid character trait in Singh and find fault with it. Calling him an obnoxious weed is simply bullying.... :)
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-28 10:57:51
So much emphasis is placed on what someone says in the media, rather than attitudes towards one another on the field. That is what we should be concentrating on, not what some shock statement is repeated on an entertainment program on morning radio.
And lets be honest, these guys are all heading to India to line their pockets before they're too old to pick up a bat/ball anymore, so I wouldn't have thought there's THAT much animosity felt towards our subcontinental friends.
Ravi, character assassination would require someone to point out a valid character trait in Singh and find fault with it. Calling him an obnoxious weed is simply bullying.... :)
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-28 10:57:51
By the way, well done on the U19s win last night. I watched most of the game, and you've got some good young players on the way. I hope they are as fortunate as some of the NZ U19 players, in that they are given the opportunity to play first class cricket early(Corey Anderson in the NZ squad was given a contract at 16 after Chris Harris left to play in the ICL).
Keep an eye on Gotswami and Virat, they are solid top order batsmen, and Ajitesh Argal is a good future opening bowler (can move it both ways at will).
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-28 11:09:34
Keep an eye on Gotswami and Virat, they are solid top order batsmen, and Ajitesh Argal is a good future opening bowler (can move it both ways at will).
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-28 11:09:34
Jaradevans,
Most of the youngsters are already playing first class cricket in India. And as far as I can remember, India has one of the best teams in U 19 level for the past 8 years.
I agree with your comment that not much must be read about Hayden's comment on an entertainment show. But blame it on Aussie media for blowing it up. Not Indian team, who don't listen to the show.
Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there is animosity between players. I am sure it will be subdued when they play in IPL, but the bad blood will remain. I also think IPL is a big useless tournament that can either be a flop or start ruling cricket.
Morons like Healy (with that stupid grin), want a window for IPL. Try telling that to the richest man in India (Mukesh Ambani) when he realises that he is getting a raw deal with IPL with only a 44 day window. It's like inviting a lion to have your dinner with you. Chances are that you will be eaten too. Cricket's gone the minute I heard of the guys who won the franchises.
I am sure even Clarke will run at first chance to play after the ACB is in ruins.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-28 11:48:52
Most of the youngsters are already playing first class cricket in India. And as far as I can remember, India has one of the best teams in U 19 level for the past 8 years.
I agree with your comment that not much must be read about Hayden's comment on an entertainment show. But blame it on Aussie media for blowing it up. Not Indian team, who don't listen to the show.
Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there is animosity between players. I am sure it will be subdued when they play in IPL, but the bad blood will remain. I also think IPL is a big useless tournament that can either be a flop or start ruling cricket.
Morons like Healy (with that stupid grin), want a window for IPL. Try telling that to the richest man in India (Mukesh Ambani) when he realises that he is getting a raw deal with IPL with only a 44 day window. It's like inviting a lion to have your dinner with you. Chances are that you will be eaten too. Cricket's gone the minute I heard of the guys who won the franchises.
I am sure even Clarke will run at first chance to play after the ACB is in ruins.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-28 11:48:52
I'm not too familiar with the franchise owners, so i'll take your word on that. Doesn't sound like the game is in their best interests. Not sure about the animosity - it is probably played out more for the public than is actually there. Like any workplace, you'll have conflict, but unlike your or my workplace, it isn't played out for all to see. these guys see each other every year in one form of the game or another and know what each other is about. Personalities will always clash.
From what the commentators were saying last night, only one of the current Indian U19 squad was playing first class cricket.
I don't think Cricket Australia is the most efficiently run organisation (James Sutherland is the biggest yes man in the history of the ICC), but it has managed to run without much cash influx before, so i doubt it will fail in the future. Remember, sporting "icons" still get paid pretty well here and that wont change, no matter how much revenue is available from the IPL or ICL. If you can't live on circa 200k a year there's something wrong with you.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-28 12:04:28
From what the commentators were saying last night, only one of the current Indian U19 squad was playing first class cricket.
I don't think Cricket Australia is the most efficiently run organisation (James Sutherland is the biggest yes man in the history of the ICC), but it has managed to run without much cash influx before, so i doubt it will fail in the future. Remember, sporting "icons" still get paid pretty well here and that wont change, no matter how much revenue is available from the IPL or ICL. If you can't live on circa 200k a year there's something wrong with you.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-28 12:04:28
Let's remember that BCCI is like an insect (financially) in front of most of the corporates that own franchises in IPL. Add to that, general discontent among Indian cricket lovers about the way BCCI is handling things. It only takes a couple of provocative instances for Mukesh Ambani to start ruling cricket. The only thing that saves BCCI is the political power weilded by Sharad Pawar. But it won't last long.
Since I watch cricket only to watch Tendulkar bat, I don't really mind when it is reduced to a farce of T20 contests.
It is funny to watch all self-obsessed former players argue with a smugness about the pride of playing for a baggy green.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-28 12:06:04
Since I watch cricket only to watch Tendulkar bat, I don't really mind when it is reduced to a farce of T20 contests.
It is funny to watch all self-obsessed former players argue with a smugness about the pride of playing for a baggy green.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-28 12:06:04
If you are interested, go to cricinfo and look up player profiles. With the exception of a few everyone's playing first class in India.
People start early in India. They don't have the same luxury you guys have to travel the world and then decide what to do. there are 1 billion people breathing down your neck willing to take your place, if you wish to go on a world tour.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-28 12:12:36
People start early in India. They don't have the same luxury you guys have to travel the world and then decide what to do. there are 1 billion people breathing down your neck willing to take your place, if you wish to go on a world tour.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-28 12:12:36
jaradevans,
Do you think CA will be able to pay the salaries for cricketers and maintain the entire cricket structure if IPL runs amock. Not just IPL, say some other domestic tournaments in South Africa, West Indies, England.
What if IPL sets academies in Australia and elsewhere to train and absorb cricketers at a young age? Yes, CA can try the dirty protectionist trick and stop it. But for how long can a country of 30 million sustain a commercial attack by a country with a huge population and advertising potential? IPL may even have Australian city teams.
BCCI is a bunch of losers. They can promise to the ICC all they want, but every contract will have an escape clause and I am sure an enterprising Indian entreprenuer can find a way out of it. I just hope IPL doesn't take off and becomes some kind of show piece event where players go through motions. If it does take off, I am sure cricket is the loser.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-28 12:27:27
Do you think CA will be able to pay the salaries for cricketers and maintain the entire cricket structure if IPL runs amock. Not just IPL, say some other domestic tournaments in South Africa, West Indies, England.
What if IPL sets academies in Australia and elsewhere to train and absorb cricketers at a young age? Yes, CA can try the dirty protectionist trick and stop it. But for how long can a country of 30 million sustain a commercial attack by a country with a huge population and advertising potential? IPL may even have Australian city teams.
BCCI is a bunch of losers. They can promise to the ICC all they want, but every contract will have an escape clause and I am sure an enterprising Indian entreprenuer can find a way out of it. I just hope IPL doesn't take off and becomes some kind of show piece event where players go through motions. If it does take off, I am sure cricket is the loser.
Posted by Subhash on 2008-02-28 12:27:27
jaradevans,
I heard the matty interview at www.triplem.com.au/brisbane/sport/haydenspray.html
Never mind who the radio station listeners are, a player at his level should focus his funny bones on some non-controversial subject. Even the RJs were surprised at Matty's frankness.
Are you suggesting if Hillary Clinton is talking on MTV, she can call Obama an idiot?
Especially in this series which was almost called off at huge projected financial losses just because Harbhajan gave a friendly pat to Brett Lee, is it not common sense that Matty should be more civil aganist his opponents, against whom he tetified in a judicial hearing?
And what is he complaining about "shutting up and play"? Matty, Symonds, Ponting were the ones who refused to be sportive & complained to match referee in first place.
And what about his poor impersonation of Ishant Sharma's accent? To many people, that may appear racist.
Matty should urgently rent out the DVD of Spiderman I. "With great power comes great responsibility".
As per his rapport with Indian players, less said the better. Maybe Lee, Gilly, Steve Waugh are friends with Sachin & a couple of them, but I doubt Matty has too many admirers in other teams, leave alone Indian team.
As per tarnishing reputation, I agree, I cannot vouch for Harbhajan's character, but one can't deny that his reputation is tarnished by these so called bullying tactics. Next time even a minor infraction by either him or Ishant SHarma will draw heavy penalties by trigger happy ICC.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-28 13:53:52
I heard the matty interview at www.triplem.com.au/brisbane/sport/haydenspray.html
Never mind who the radio station listeners are, a player at his level should focus his funny bones on some non-controversial subject. Even the RJs were surprised at Matty's frankness.
Are you suggesting if Hillary Clinton is talking on MTV, she can call Obama an idiot?
Especially in this series which was almost called off at huge projected financial losses just because Harbhajan gave a friendly pat to Brett Lee, is it not common sense that Matty should be more civil aganist his opponents, against whom he tetified in a judicial hearing?
And what is he complaining about "shutting up and play"? Matty, Symonds, Ponting were the ones who refused to be sportive & complained to match referee in first place.
And what about his poor impersonation of Ishant Sharma's accent? To many people, that may appear racist.
Matty should urgently rent out the DVD of Spiderman I. "With great power comes great responsibility".
As per his rapport with Indian players, less said the better. Maybe Lee, Gilly, Steve Waugh are friends with Sachin & a couple of them, but I doubt Matty has too many admirers in other teams, leave alone Indian team.
As per tarnishing reputation, I agree, I cannot vouch for Harbhajan's character, but one can't deny that his reputation is tarnished by these so called bullying tactics. Next time even a minor infraction by either him or Ishant SHarma will draw heavy penalties by trigger happy ICC.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-28 13:53:52
You hit the nail on the scone Subhash. CA will make sure it doesn't happen unless they have a piece of the action. The IPL will never get into Australia, though I'm sure an "agreement" will be reached sometime soon so the cash cow can continue to be milked.
The issue you'll have with Australia is that it isn't a one sport country (and I'm not suggesting India is). But the only "window" here for such shite-excuse-for-cricket-matches are bordering the football seasons (AFL, NRL etc). In Australia people who follow both winter and summer sports will want to keep that separation. I can't see how they'd garner such interest here during the "off season", and if the crowds aren't tipping up, where is the revenue going to come from? They wont plough cash into it unless they can get guaranteed advertising/TV revenue, which wont happen here when competing with AFL/NRL.
The BCCI, like their Pakistani equivalents, have held back the development of cricket in the subcontinent over the years. Now when another organisation offers up more money than sense where will the younger talent go?
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-28 13:58:25
The issue you'll have with Australia is that it isn't a one sport country (and I'm not suggesting India is). But the only "window" here for such shite-excuse-for-cricket-matches are bordering the football seasons (AFL, NRL etc). In Australia people who follow both winter and summer sports will want to keep that separation. I can't see how they'd garner such interest here during the "off season", and if the crowds aren't tipping up, where is the revenue going to come from? They wont plough cash into it unless they can get guaranteed advertising/TV revenue, which wont happen here when competing with AFL/NRL.
The BCCI, like their Pakistani equivalents, have held back the development of cricket in the subcontinent over the years. Now when another organisation offers up more money than sense where will the younger talent go?
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-28 13:58:25
Ravi Hilary did worse than that! But if she did, would you take any notice? As my dad used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all....
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-28 14:06:27
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-28 14:06:27
jaradevans,
Can't agree more. I hope these international teams which are followed by many fans apply this golden rule always, rather than selectively only when it suits them.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-28 15:09:28
Can't agree more. I hope these international teams which are followed by many fans apply this golden rule always, rather than selectively only when it suits them.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-28 15:09:28
The sideways trophy has to be awarded to Photohog for most insane comments....
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Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 18:26:27
Hey, don't handball your hard earn medallions to me, ya poolroom will look bare mate. But then again you've probably won plenty??
I enjoy ya fuzzy logic so "keep on postin'" kcid deah.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-28 20:53:45
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Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-27 18:26:27
Hey, don't handball your hard earn medallions to me, ya poolroom will look bare mate. But then again you've probably won plenty??
I enjoy ya fuzzy logic so "keep on postin'" kcid deah.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-28 20:53:45
Yer
Posted by cperk21 on 2008-04-23 18:03:07
Posted by cperk21 on 2008-04-23 18:03:07
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