Australia vs India, 1st Final
There's a lot of niggle going into this game with several antagonistic relationships. Ponting has a tense relationship with Harbhajan Singh. Matt Hayden has been exchanging barbs with Harbhajan Singh. Andrew Symonds has had a racial row with Harbhajan Singh. Hmm, anyone detect a pattern forming? Should be a hard fought game of cricket between two strong willed, skillful teams. Australia to win, of course. Live scorecard
| Posted by JC on Sun 2 Mar |  69 comments |
Can someone tell me how Ricky ALWAYS wins the toss?
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-03-02 14:28:00
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-03-02 14:28:00
can someone tell me why australians always try to hit their way out of form slumps?
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 14:43:38
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 14:43:38
Clarke just got done
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 14:45:07
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 14:45:07
Hayden is whooping ass and demoloshing Pathans career singlehandedly. Captaincy dilemmas.
Posted by Indian on 2008-03-02 15:26:23
Posted by Indian on 2008-03-02 15:26:23
Pathan really bowling like a champ, nerves, or what?....The Mohali guys who signed him up for 925K must be feeling a little twinge in their stomachs.
Posted by Indian on 2008-03-02 15:32:53
Posted by Indian on 2008-03-02 15:32:53
Australia keep losing wickets, so wouldn't worry about Pathan... Just lob a few spinners into the attack and the wickets will fall...
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 16:31:28
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 16:31:28
Ponting has a tense relationship with Harbhajan Singh. Matt Hayden has been exchanging barbs with Harbhajan Singh. Andrew Symonds has had a racial row with Harbhajan Singh. Hmm, anyone detect a pattern forming?
Posted by JC on Sun 2 Mar
Bhajji has a problem with Symo, Ishant has a problem with Symo, even match refree has had problems with Symo's attitute. Now can anyone find a pattern.
Also He provocates, and when he gets his own deeds back, he runs crying to the match refree.
Boy o boy, what a cry baby.
And by the way, incidentally Bhajji got both Symo and Hayden out today. ;)
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-02 17:01:16
Posted by JC on Sun 2 Mar
Bhajji has a problem with Symo, Ishant has a problem with Symo, even match refree has had problems with Symo's attitute. Now can anyone find a pattern.
Also He provocates, and when he gets his own deeds back, he runs crying to the match refree.
Boy o boy, what a cry baby.
And by the way, incidentally Bhajji got both Symo and Hayden out today. ;)
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-02 17:01:16
PhotoHogg will not be able to post comments today. He is in police custody after being caught running stark naked on the MCG ground.
Another feather added to the australian cap !!
Posted by AustralianPork on 2008-03-02 17:27:34
Another feather added to the australian cap !!
Posted by AustralianPork on 2008-03-02 17:27:34
PhotoHogg will not be able to post comments today. He is in police custody after being caught running stark naked on the MCG ground.
Another feather added to the australian cap !!
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Posted by AustralianPork on 2008-03-02 17:27:34
If he running naked around the G he's not at the cricket as this one is being played 1000 k's away in Sydney.
If that was Hog at the SCG he's a big boy.
Posted by JJJ on 2008-03-02 17:54:57
Another feather added to the australian cap !!
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Posted by AustralianPork on 2008-03-02 17:27:34
If he running naked around the G he's not at the cricket as this one is being played 1000 k's away in Sydney.
If that was Hog at the SCG he's a big boy.
Posted by JJJ on 2008-03-02 17:54:57
Great job by Pathan there. Wide full toss slower bowling at the death made for a lot of fun for me and my roomate. If he bowl me some then I like to face.
My money is on Straya here on in. Good show Irfy..
Posted by Indian on 2008-03-02 18:08:07
My money is on Straya here on in. Good show Irfy..
Posted by Indian on 2008-03-02 18:08:07
So who will get out first?
Posted by Adi on 2008-03-02 18:53:46
Posted by Adi on 2008-03-02 18:53:46
R. Uthappa Caught Gilly B. Bracken
Posted by Indian on 2008-03-02 19:04:17
Posted by Indian on 2008-03-02 19:04:17
No one today
Posted by Avi on 2008-03-02 19:08:58
Posted by Avi on 2008-03-02 19:08:58
ssukhdial, touche re Symo :-)
Posted by JC on 2008-03-02 19:13:24
Posted by JC on 2008-03-02 19:13:24
Catch of the tournament to Hussey. But still India off to a good start. Just need to play out the power play and wait for Hogg. M looking forward 16,000 dulkar vs. Hogg.
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-02 19:27:38
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-02 19:27:38
Ghambhir, caught ball gazing.
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-02 19:30:33
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-02 19:30:33
wht the hell is gambhir doing???i think he spotted real a gud looking girl out there.well thats wht it looked like to me.
Posted by vishnu on 2008-03-02 19:48:08
Posted by vishnu on 2008-03-02 19:48:08
Very tight fielding by Aussie team; they are so good at cutting off runs, very precise in their throws that 90% of the time they hit the wicket whatever awkward the angle & bounce are.
With this fielding Aussie team has added 40-50 runs to their score & create chances for taking wickets.
Indian fielders look good as fielders, but somehow they are not this compact as Aussie team. Well folks like Pathan make it so difficult.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-02 19:55:37
With this fielding Aussie team has added 40-50 runs to their score & create chances for taking wickets.
Indian fielders look good as fielders, but somehow they are not this compact as Aussie team. Well folks like Pathan make it so difficult.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-02 19:55:37
Yuvi lost his concentration after Sachin got his 50 :-)
Great bowling by Hogg
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-02 20:11:01
Great bowling by Hogg
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-02 20:11:01
It was good bowling by Hogg, but there was bad technigue by Yuraj as well. I think he was trying to attack Hoog too much.
That Gambhir run out, where was the dive? Is it just me or do Indian players not dive?
Posted by Andrew on 2008-03-02 20:17:15
That Gambhir run out, where was the dive? Is it just me or do Indian players not dive?
Posted by Andrew on 2008-03-02 20:17:15
Yeah, Arnold Schwazznegar could drive his truck thru the bat pad gap for Yuvi. He was beaten the ball before, & was indecisive. His lazy body language though is irritating to watch when he shows abysmal footwork sometimes.
Running between wickets is not a strong forte for Indian batsmen. Though they made significant progress recently, diving by an Indian batsman is something I don't recall in a while.
Gambhir has not yet warmed up, and as before was vulnerable in early part of his innings.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-02 20:35:35
Running between wickets is not a strong forte for Indian batsmen. Though they made significant progress recently, diving by an Indian batsman is something I don't recall in a while.
Gambhir has not yet warmed up, and as before was vulnerable in early part of his innings.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-02 20:35:35
I think Tendulkars read this article..
http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/340239.html
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-03-02 21:38:53
http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/340239.html
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-03-02 21:38:53
thoroughly deserved victory this one. we have been monstered by a team that knows how to play on a slower wicket. when our top three bowlers don't get wickets, you have a feeling that it isn't going to be a good day.....
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 22:08:58
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 22:08:58
Ravi, don't have to worry about running between the wickets when everything's going to the boundary... :)
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 22:11:42
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 22:11:42
thoroughly deserved victory this one. we have been monstered by a team that knows how to play on a slower wicket. when our top three bowlers don't get wickets, you have a feeling that it isn't going to be a good day..... Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-02 22:08:58
Here we go agn....aussies making excuses and complaints...."monstered by a team that knows how to play on a slower wicket!!!" Cant u just admit that the better team won???
Posted by Kavin on 2008-03-02 22:19:04
Here we go agn....aussies making excuses and complaints...."monstered by a team that knows how to play on a slower wicket!!!" Cant u just admit that the better team won???
Posted by Kavin on 2008-03-02 22:19:04
"Dead Rubber Excuse" has been boxed in a coffin and laid to rest... "Excusologist" (Yeap, I have invented this term!!!) are running for covers and putting their heads together in "Excusology Laboratory" to invent new excuses....
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-02 23:09:15
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-02 23:09:15
Jab Dat hayden.......hus d one losing now ?
Posted by Avram on 2008-03-02 23:09:42
Posted by Avram on 2008-03-02 23:09:42
Why aren't there any talks about Ponting not retiring? I have had enough of those silly looking shots he plays. Honestly, he's no more the man he once was.
Mike Hussey would be the perfect man to lead this team and most importantly infuse civility into it. But my money is on Michael Clarke to be the next captain as the aussie selectors would always look for a man who 'doesn't walk after edging to first slip.'
Thoroughly deserved win. I knew this was coming. But Subhash I didn't see your banners!
Posted by Zapper on 2008-03-03 00:04:47
Mike Hussey would be the perfect man to lead this team and most importantly infuse civility into it. But my money is on Michael Clarke to be the next captain as the aussie selectors would always look for a man who 'doesn't walk after edging to first slip.'
Thoroughly deserved win. I knew this was coming. But Subhash I didn't see your banners!
Posted by Zapper on 2008-03-03 00:04:47
No Kavin you tool. where was the excuse in that? its understanding where different teams strengths and weaknesses lie. Can't you take a compliment when it's delivered? Which part of "thoroughly deserved victory" does quite compute? Did you actually watch the game? Slower bowlers (and Tendulkar..) won the day on a Sydney pitch. And India had the better slower bowlers. Stop trying to moan in victory. Perhaps you could try and analyse the performances, instead of tossing on.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 00:25:25
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 00:25:25
Take that Hayden and Symonds. You lummoxes have been shown what for today......Bhaji does you losers well and truly. Looks like today India did some gardening and trod on some aussie manure!
Posted by Aussie manure heap on 2008-03-03 00:33:17
Posted by Aussie manure heap on 2008-03-03 00:33:17
dont know where is photo hogg now? are u stil alive?
Posted by purush on 2008-03-03 00:40:27
Posted by purush on 2008-03-03 00:40:27
Purush, See my earlier post. Photohog is an honourable member of "Excusology Laboratory aka Club" and they have convened an urgent meeting to discuss the excuses to be unanimously agreed upon amongst the members for this defeat....
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 01:46:19
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 01:46:19
Had SL qualified for final and played against India, it would have been competitive and exciting... anyway, hope our interest will be retained till 3rd final... 3rd final should not become "reverse dead rubber". I need to consult expert's guidebook as to how aussies play in case of "reverse dead rubber contest".
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 02:16:28
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 02:16:28
Well deserved victory for the Indians ...
Can anyone explain me as to why Ponting is such a sore loser ??
Quote -- "He had a close shave earlier in the innings and was lucky, and he went on to play a super innings !!!"
And Binga ... well the ball slips out of his hand when there is calamity around ... dare ppl talk abt Sreesanth ... he has a history of beam balls and that one could have been really really nasty at his speed.
So would he atleast get a shot at by the referee ... mebbe no fines et. al. but just a shot. I adore him and his bowling (he, gilly and hussey are the best in that team), but this is really stupid of him !!!
Posted by ghurram on 2008-03-03 03:58:59
Can anyone explain me as to why Ponting is such a sore loser ??
Quote -- "He had a close shave earlier in the innings and was lucky, and he went on to play a super innings !!!"
And Binga ... well the ball slips out of his hand when there is calamity around ... dare ppl talk abt Sreesanth ... he has a history of beam balls and that one could have been really really nasty at his speed.
So would he atleast get a shot at by the referee ... mebbe no fines et. al. but just a shot. I adore him and his bowling (he, gilly and hussey are the best in that team), but this is really stupid of him !!!
Posted by ghurram on 2008-03-03 03:58:59
How did it all go this summer:
1. Winning a test by hook or crook and misbehaving on the field. - Result is bucknor removed and bad publicity for ponting & co
2. Lodging a complaint for racism against Bhajji - charges dropped
3. Pretending that india will be vanquished in perth - you know what happened in perth
4. Kumble dropeed charges against Hogg to bring down the temper - kumble goes one notch up against ponting
5. Daydreaming that India will be down and out in 1 day series - has started unfolding beautifully and climax is round the corner
How many times one can get egg-faced? French are complaining for not getting their share of egg on breakfast table as the poultry industry is working overtime to supply eggs to aussie team
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 05:48:02
1. Winning a test by hook or crook and misbehaving on the field. - Result is bucknor removed and bad publicity for ponting & co
2. Lodging a complaint for racism against Bhajji - charges dropped
3. Pretending that india will be vanquished in perth - you know what happened in perth
4. Kumble dropeed charges against Hogg to bring down the temper - kumble goes one notch up against ponting
5. Daydreaming that India will be down and out in 1 day series - has started unfolding beautifully and climax is round the corner
How many times one can get egg-faced? French are complaining for not getting their share of egg on breakfast table as the poultry industry is working overtime to supply eggs to aussie team
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 05:48:02
well, this is seems like turning into an Indian blog than an Indo-Aussie one. But I m loving it.
Also, I am surprised than Symo, Hadyen and Ponting did not run to the match refree to have an Indian Player banned. Esp. Bhajji. With something like, Look India won the match, not fair, so Bhajji, Ishant, 10dulkar, Rohit and Praveen Kumar should be banned, OR look, Bhajji and Yuvi were boxing after Hydo's wicket, and hence should be banned. Seems CAB has put a blanket ban on these 3 to run to the match refree. Now what r the cry babies going to do
; )
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-03 06:25:51
Also, I am surprised than Symo, Hadyen and Ponting did not run to the match refree to have an Indian Player banned. Esp. Bhajji. With something like, Look India won the match, not fair, so Bhajji, Ishant, 10dulkar, Rohit and Praveen Kumar should be banned, OR look, Bhajji and Yuvi were boxing after Hydo's wicket, and hence should be banned. Seems CAB has put a blanket ban on these 3 to run to the match refree. Now what r the cry babies going to do
; )
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-03 06:25:51
A well deserved victory for India. But lo and behold what does the Aussie media report? - Harbahjan spat at the crowd. What a bunch of hypocrites. It seems the Harby report was to preempt any action on racism charges against the Sydney crowd. Harbhajan was repeatedly abused based on his religion. Should Sydney lose its rights to hold further international matches?
Posted by Vargehse on 2008-03-03 07:06:02
Posted by Vargehse on 2008-03-03 07:06:02
Steaming Aussie Manure Heap. Well educated you must be, and brave too, hiding behind such a creative name. You only get called for a free hit for front foot no balls. As the pictures clearly showed, the ball slipped. You believe what you want. And you seem to "conveniently" fail to mention that both Lee and Ponting apologised, and the ball was changed immediately after. Stop making big deals out of nothing.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 09:13:28
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 09:13:28
Ever thought that PhotoHog is off earning a living, rather than partaking in you witty reparte?
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 09:14:43
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 09:14:43
jaradevans are u photohog's twin brother by any chance??haha just kiding...its cos u knew exactly what he was doing maybe he would have called u over weekend or so,, whatever..
well today i was shocked to see "the age" local newspaper..it said bhajji was reported to be making mokey getsures to the crowd..
i dono is this true??
now that ausies have cretaed lot of stories right throughout the series even if this is true it sounds unbelievable,,well well well funny bunch of guys...some people never like loosing
Posted by purush on 2008-03-03 10:01:36
well today i was shocked to see "the age" local newspaper..it said bhajji was reported to be making mokey getsures to the crowd..
i dono is this true??
now that ausies have cretaed lot of stories right throughout the series even if this is true it sounds unbelievable,,well well well funny bunch of guys...some people never like loosing
Posted by purush on 2008-03-03 10:01:36
Nah mate I only have sisters... you have to remember that local media will always pander to local interest. I'm sure it's the same in India. As has been mentioned many times on this blog, both teams need to improve the on field behaviour and off field comments. I doubt anything reported in the age here would be made up, but i wouldn't be so sure it would have been inflamed. It is Fairfax media after all... But as Peter Roebuck-the-trend said, if he has done something untoward then the punishment shall fit the crime. Otherwise, it's all hot air.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 11:11:24
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 11:11:24
Well done to India, it seems like a lot of our top players seem distracted at the moment.
Not sure why we are batting so badly, hardly think India bowled that well...
Look at the way Haydos and Symmo got out it was poor shot selection...
Can someone tell me why India continues to support Zimbabwe cricket?
I would be interested in some one eyed Indian supporters comments on this and why your media and press which can be quite vocal on condemning sledging on the cricket field not take a stand against genocide?
And agree with JC on Hayden and Co acting like a bunch of idiots - now that India is 1 up it is time to shut up eat our humble pie, and let the bat and ball do the talking in game 2.
You always know when Australia has lost a game of cricket the next day when it is hardly mentioned in the Sports news...
I still think Harbhajan is overrated and prone to obnoxious behaviour - but since he is such good mates with Sachin riling Harby might have inadvertently fired up the Little Master, so that may have caused him to make some runs ;)
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 16:02:34
Not sure why we are batting so badly, hardly think India bowled that well...
Look at the way Haydos and Symmo got out it was poor shot selection...
Can someone tell me why India continues to support Zimbabwe cricket?
I would be interested in some one eyed Indian supporters comments on this and why your media and press which can be quite vocal on condemning sledging on the cricket field not take a stand against genocide?
And agree with JC on Hayden and Co acting like a bunch of idiots - now that India is 1 up it is time to shut up eat our humble pie, and let the bat and ball do the talking in game 2.
You always know when Australia has lost a game of cricket the next day when it is hardly mentioned in the Sports news...
I still think Harbhajan is overrated and prone to obnoxious behaviour - but since he is such good mates with Sachin riling Harby might have inadvertently fired up the Little Master, so that may have caused him to make some runs ;)
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 16:02:34
Australians are sure a cry baby. They can not digest defeat at the hands of India in their home ground.
Grow up. You need to ;-)
Posted by Rohit on 2008-03-03 17:19:00
Grow up. You need to ;-)
Posted by Rohit on 2008-03-03 17:19:00
Australians are doomed. Their experienced players are ageing and retiring. No one to maintain their forte. Symonds, Hayden, Ponting are acting like 60 years old making noise for anything that go against them. Be ready. Indians are going to win the One-day series.
The sledging 11 of Australia will be torn down by their fans in their own ground. And when they visit India, they will be crowned the Kangaroos turned Monkey (the racists) ;-)
Posted by Punit on 2008-03-03 17:24:25
The sledging 11 of Australia will be torn down by their fans in their own ground. And when they visit India, they will be crowned the Kangaroos turned Monkey (the racists) ;-)
Posted by Punit on 2008-03-03 17:24:25
Rohit and Punit,
Glad to see yet more one eyed meaningless posts from our Indian bloggers...
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 17:32:57
Glad to see yet more one eyed meaningless posts from our Indian bloggers...
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 17:32:57
Tendulkar took that beamer from Lee and India never said a word. Just imagine, if Ponting, Hayden or Symmond took one from Ishant Sharma. That is the difference of attitude we should be talking about.
Still think that Australia has the greatest players in the world?
Posted by Anurag on 2008-03-03 17:37:20
Still think that Australia has the greatest players in the world?
Posted by Anurag on 2008-03-03 17:37:20
Ace
"Can someone tell me why India continues to support Zimbabwe cricket?"
I'll tell you why. India does not support genocide in Zimbabwe and we feel that govt is doomed. But banning their cricket team will not help solve the real issue. Anyway, cricket is played only by few nations and if we start banning teams on political reasons, then one day Queensland would end up playing test matches with Victoria... may be, that's what you want but that would not be good for the future of cricket.
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 17:38:46
"Can someone tell me why India continues to support Zimbabwe cricket?"
I'll tell you why. India does not support genocide in Zimbabwe and we feel that govt is doomed. But banning their cricket team will not help solve the real issue. Anyway, cricket is played only by few nations and if we start banning teams on political reasons, then one day Queensland would end up playing test matches with Victoria... may be, that's what you want but that would not be good for the future of cricket.
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 17:38:46
No Argument - Zimbabwe are not fit to play test cricket, they can't even field a team due to the problems in that country - and their cricket board is taking the BCCI/ICC money and giving it to a regime that is perpetuating genocide - so the ICC and BCCI is in effect supporting genocide...
Well done to India for winning the game, leave it there - stop gloating, it is after all one game, win consistently for years, then I will rate your team as the best in the world...
There are many flashes in the pan - see England's Ashes team in 2005, win consistently, may I suggest you beat the Safars at home and then try to regain the Border Gavaskar then I will give your team India's claims to greatness a little bit more thought, but until you win a series in my backyard, like we won in yours, please stop gloating...
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 17:45:48
Well done to India for winning the game, leave it there - stop gloating, it is after all one game, win consistently for years, then I will rate your team as the best in the world...
There are many flashes in the pan - see England's Ashes team in 2005, win consistently, may I suggest you beat the Safars at home and then try to regain the Border Gavaskar then I will give your team India's claims to greatness a little bit more thought, but until you win a series in my backyard, like we won in yours, please stop gloating...
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 17:45:48
Tendulkar is a different breed than rest of the players and I am talking both aussie and indian players. Here is a man who used to drink, eat and sleep cricket when he was young. And he used to be and still is extremely focussed on his batting rather than wasting time on foolish tantrums. Ponting's record is very impressive and he should not let other g=factors wearing down his talent. May be, it's the time he should step down and concentrate on batting the way tendualkar did. Then we can again see those "lost double hundreds" from his bat... hopefully not against India :)
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 17:47:12
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 17:47:12
No Argument, I don't like Ponting as a captain, I think he is not a very good captain first, and also does not keep calm under pressure, he seems to freeze...
He also does not seem to set a good example for the rest of the team, he is undisputably one of the greatest batsmen of this era, it is hard to think though who else could captain the team at the moment...
I also think it is starting to impact his batting, will be an interesting year, with some tough cricket in India and hopefully a good series next summer vs Safrica
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 17:55:17
He also does not seem to set a good example for the rest of the team, he is undisputably one of the greatest batsmen of this era, it is hard to think though who else could captain the team at the moment...
I also think it is starting to impact his batting, will be an interesting year, with some tough cricket in India and hopefully a good series next summer vs Safrica
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 17:55:17
Ace
"There are many flashes in the pan - see England's Ashes team in 2005, win consistently, may I suggest you beat the Safars at home and then try to regain the Border Gavaskar then I will give your team India's claims to greatness a little bit more thought, but until you win a series in my backyard, like we won in yours, please stop gloating..."
What's being dished out for last couple of months are not flash in the pan but a very definitive symptom of a much more profound change. That is the crown is gradually tilting and slipping, it is too gradual to catch your attention. We almost won a series this time.. even last time we came close to win but drew 1-1. You won only once during last visit. Before that you lost the series 2-1 with a comprehensive innings defeat in Kolkata... we did not lose by an innings and fought well in all matches... if you see the current crop of players in both countries and the astonishing speed with which we are producing talents, it's just a matter of time... may be this would happen sooner than we think
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 17:56:10
"There are many flashes in the pan - see England's Ashes team in 2005, win consistently, may I suggest you beat the Safars at home and then try to regain the Border Gavaskar then I will give your team India's claims to greatness a little bit more thought, but until you win a series in my backyard, like we won in yours, please stop gloating..."
What's being dished out for last couple of months are not flash in the pan but a very definitive symptom of a much more profound change. That is the crown is gradually tilting and slipping, it is too gradual to catch your attention. We almost won a series this time.. even last time we came close to win but drew 1-1. You won only once during last visit. Before that you lost the series 2-1 with a comprehensive innings defeat in Kolkata... we did not lose by an innings and fought well in all matches... if you see the current crop of players in both countries and the astonishing speed with which we are producing talents, it's just a matter of time... may be this would happen sooner than we think
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-03 17:56:10
My breakdown of international results on this tour by India:
Test Series: 2 - 1 Australia (Can debate this as much as you like but this is fact)
T20: Won by Australia
ODIs: Australia 2 wins, India 2 wins...
I fail to see the dishing out of anything?
It has been a great series, and very even, but we went to India and won the ODIs recently 4-2 so even if you guys manage to win this series, I wouldnt say that you are the new world champions yet.
All I am saying is do it consistently, India's problem has always been winning consistently - yes you drew 1-1 last time, but what happened after that?, you lost to Bangladesh at the World Cup, and we won it ;)
You lost a series in South Africa 2-1, when we won there 3-0, these are facts mate, start winning consistently, then all us Aussies, begrudgingly will admit your dues...
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 18:08:15
Test Series: 2 - 1 Australia (Can debate this as much as you like but this is fact)
T20: Won by Australia
ODIs: Australia 2 wins, India 2 wins...
I fail to see the dishing out of anything?
It has been a great series, and very even, but we went to India and won the ODIs recently 4-2 so even if you guys manage to win this series, I wouldnt say that you are the new world champions yet.
All I am saying is do it consistently, India's problem has always been winning consistently - yes you drew 1-1 last time, but what happened after that?, you lost to Bangladesh at the World Cup, and we won it ;)
You lost a series in South Africa 2-1, when we won there 3-0, these are facts mate, start winning consistently, then all us Aussies, begrudgingly will admit your dues...
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 18:08:15
That's the wonder of the world ranking system. You look at a moving average over all test series, not just selective ones. In that system, australia has a 30 point lead over india, which by my rudimentary calculations will take approximately 3 years to overhaul, given that australia lose every test series over that period of time. Hmmm.... Gradually slipping crown? Whatever.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 18:10:37
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 18:10:37
Jarad- You need to understand that every time India wins it equates to the equivalence of 10 of our victories - hence they will be able to catch up in a few months, once the BCCI and Sony and Star own the rankings system...
Only a matter of time mate ;)
This blog is de ja vu from the World Cup, where every Indian fan I met kept telling me that there was nothing great about the Australian team...
One misguided fellow went on to tell me that there is nothing Australia had achieved in cricket that India hadnt...
I ask the Indian fans out there in the last 20 years how many World Cups have you won?
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 18:14:28
Only a matter of time mate ;)
This blog is de ja vu from the World Cup, where every Indian fan I met kept telling me that there was nothing great about the Australian team...
One misguided fellow went on to tell me that there is nothing Australia had achieved in cricket that India hadnt...
I ask the Indian fans out there in the last 20 years how many World Cups have you won?
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 18:14:28
Oi Anurag, those aforementioned players have been dealt such deliveries, when Shoaib Aktar was letting fly with gay abandon. Reacted the same way Tendulkar did. As I've said, stop making up shit when there's nothing there.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 18:19:27
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 18:19:27
There's plenty India has achieved in cricket that Australia hasn't. I'm looking forward to the day I get to watch cricket at the MCG or SCG behind 12 foot wire fences.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 18:21:29
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 18:21:29
True Jarad, I forgot the sacking of one Steve Bucknor...
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 18:24:46
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-03 18:24:46
There's plenty India has achieved in cricket that Australia hasn't. I'm looking forward to the day I get to watch cricket at the MCG or SCG behind 12 foot wire fences.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 18:21:29
The day is not far behind. Just a few more naked drunkards on the field and this is happen.
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-03 21:39:02
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-03 18:21:29
The day is not far behind. Just a few more naked drunkards on the field and this is happen.
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-03 21:39:02
Apparently, the security at SCG was busy monitoring Bhajji! What about monitoring the ROWDY SCG crowd jeering and racially taunting him? Calling his turban a "knob" and asking him to get a "haircut" surely merits being called RACIST. But thats the way the summer has been.... When Symmo was taunted by a few in Mumbai, they were arrested by the Mumbai Police. But in Australia, its all in good spirit eh? We've seen several amongst the Indian supporters hold up banners welcoming Symmo to Hyderabad, who paid a million and more for him, but aussie crowds still boo and jeer bhajji..Shame on you all.
Posted by Jason on 2008-03-03 21:42:33
Posted by Jason on 2008-03-03 21:42:33
Ssukhdial, clearly shows how much cricket you've seen in australia. People have been running drunk naked across the pitch for decades. Authorities still don't see the need for wired fencing.
And Jason you're talk codswallop. Mate of mine in the police personally ejected 12 people on Sunday, mostly for abusive behaviour. Because you didnt see it in the media mate doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 00:15:45
And Jason you're talk codswallop. Mate of mine in the police personally ejected 12 people on Sunday, mostly for abusive behaviour. Because you didnt see it in the media mate doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 00:15:45
Ace - "My breakdown of international results on this tour by India:
Test Series: 2 - 1 Australia (Can debate this as much as you like but this is fact)
T20: Won by Australia
ODIs: Australia 2 wins, India 2 wins...
I fail to see the dishing out of anything?"
Ace , the above statistics which u presented , India has not performed in the past this way at all and the guys who are performing are all below 25 ,not like guys in ur team about to retire and this is a team we are building for the future that is the next five to eight years.... we are not searching for some lone heroes like shane warne .we have got spinners sitting in the bench eager to crack on the field!!! i read and article what jenner says abt a dearth of spin talent in australia too ..anyways even warne didnt make any impact on india.
and there were close matches which india just lost against australia and a rain curtailed match against sri lanka else results would have been different. so dont just go blindly go by statistics my dear watch game.besides we won the Under 19 world cup!! was ur team in the semi finals????could u please answer this blog without deviating Mr. A C E??
Posted by purush on 2008-03-04 00:44:43
Test Series: 2 - 1 Australia (Can debate this as much as you like but this is fact)
T20: Won by Australia
ODIs: Australia 2 wins, India 2 wins...
I fail to see the dishing out of anything?"
Ace , the above statistics which u presented , India has not performed in the past this way at all and the guys who are performing are all below 25 ,not like guys in ur team about to retire and this is a team we are building for the future that is the next five to eight years.... we are not searching for some lone heroes like shane warne .we have got spinners sitting in the bench eager to crack on the field!!! i read and article what jenner says abt a dearth of spin talent in australia too ..anyways even warne didnt make any impact on india.
and there were close matches which india just lost against australia and a rain curtailed match against sri lanka else results would have been different. so dont just go blindly go by statistics my dear watch game.besides we won the Under 19 world cup!! was ur team in the semi finals????could u please answer this blog without deviating Mr. A C E??
Posted by purush on 2008-03-04 00:44:43
We keep on giving exposure to younger crop of players unlike aussies where it has been monopolised by 15 players or so. Haydos and Symos have been possibly playing from last century and will keep on playing in next century... there is no light at the end of the tunnel for other shefield shield players...
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-04 04:28:30
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-04 04:28:30
With regards to the Aussie side, yes it is ageing but the issue they need to address is the players who are coming in for these players when they retire. When Glenn McGrath retired they replaced him with Stuart Clarke and Mitchell Johnson, when Justin Langer retired he was replaced with Phil Jaques but one position that the Aussies haven't managed to fill is the spinners slot. Replacing Shane Warne was never going to be easy but they need to find someone who can play in that position and be stable their.
Posted by Isaac on 2008-03-04 07:40:53
Posted by Isaac on 2008-03-04 07:40:53
I have never understood the age argument. You play your best side, whether they're all 15 or 50. India have won the past few U19 world cups, and they're still 30 points behind on the test rankings. India have been too keen to discard the older players in the past with the view to bringing through the younger players. There is benefit to having experience (albeit at first class level) in a test side. Some of these Australians have 10000 FC runs before they get near a test, plus countless years in English county cricket (where you are playing 4 days a week in three different competitions). You need the right mix.
And purush what is this "lone heroes" to which you refer? You need batsmen to make the runs as well as bowlers to take the wickets. Thus the inference of the "team game". One area of the game you cannot dispute the dominance is that of fielding. People seem to forget you spend 80% of your time in cricket in the field.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 10:09:14
And purush what is this "lone heroes" to which you refer? You need batsmen to make the runs as well as bowlers to take the wickets. Thus the inference of the "team game". One area of the game you cannot dispute the dominance is that of fielding. People seem to forget you spend 80% of your time in cricket in the field.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 10:09:14
jaradevans,
to make my point, i am talking about present, not past. and given the animosity of aussie players and media towards indians, i cannot imagine ponting and company not opening their big mouth and bullshiting about the incident (even boxing ring invitation is not ruled out).
fact of the matter is indians are better behaved and more professional team at the moment.
and frankly, aussie negativity started with their loss to india in 20-20 world cup. clearly they are not handling the fact that they will not be the best team forever. after all change is the law of nature.
Posted by anurag on 2008-03-04 13:11:36
to make my point, i am talking about present, not past. and given the animosity of aussie players and media towards indians, i cannot imagine ponting and company not opening their big mouth and bullshiting about the incident (even boxing ring invitation is not ruled out).
fact of the matter is indians are better behaved and more professional team at the moment.
and frankly, aussie negativity started with their loss to india in 20-20 world cup. clearly they are not handling the fact that they will not be the best team forever. after all change is the law of nature.
Posted by anurag on 2008-03-04 13:11:36
How any of that response relates to "we are not searching for some lone heroes like shane warne" I'm stuffed if i know. If you firmly believe there is one side that is the poorly behaved and one acting like angels, then you're a tad delusional. Takes two to tango, sonny.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 13:50:25
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 13:50:25
Purush,
It doesn't matter how close matches are mate, results are all that matters, we lost a series to India due to an amazing innings from VVS Laxman in Kolkotta, a "lone hero"...
The true test of greatness of these under 25 yr olds will come in 3-4 yrs - Lets see how many of them are still playing international cricket...
Do you remember Kambli or Manjrekar or Hirwani
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
You guys go through young cricketers all the time, a few good performances hype them up and they almost always fail to deliver consistenly over the long term...
Lets look at your Test lineup - Who is going to replace Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman and Ganguly?
Your great spinners - who is going to replace Kumble, certainly dreaming if you think it will be Bhajji...
You have your best pace attack of all time at the moment but still our attack is better...
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-04 15:50:44
It doesn't matter how close matches are mate, results are all that matters, we lost a series to India due to an amazing innings from VVS Laxman in Kolkotta, a "lone hero"...
The true test of greatness of these under 25 yr olds will come in 3-4 yrs - Lets see how many of them are still playing international cricket...
Do you remember Kambli or Manjrekar or Hirwani
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
You guys go through young cricketers all the time, a few good performances hype them up and they almost always fail to deliver consistenly over the long term...
Lets look at your Test lineup - Who is going to replace Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman and Ganguly?
Your great spinners - who is going to replace Kumble, certainly dreaming if you think it will be Bhajji...
You have your best pace attack of all time at the moment but still our attack is better...
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-04 15:50:44
FINALLY THE LOUD MOUTHS LOST .. SHAME ON YOU IDIOTS AUSSIES.
Posted by Guest on 2008-03-04 22:24:59
Posted by Guest on 2008-03-04 22:24:59
still u havent answered my question ace mate.,,just round abt ,anyway i can understand ur deep feelings mate,bye bye.
Posted by purush on 2008-03-05 00:27:02
Posted by purush on 2008-03-05 00:27:02
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